> Detectives believe that the motive for the killing stemmed from Mr. Saleh having discovered that the assistant had stolen tens of thousands of dollars from him, despite the fact that Mr. Saleh had not reported the man and had set up what amounted to a repayment plan for him to return the money, one of the officials said.
Amazing how far this is from all the early speculation. Also incredibly sad.
Previous theories concerning hitmen from Saudi Arabia, Nigerian gangs, Chinese government involvement, and other salacious tales were really something.
What's amazing is how strongly people believe their own and others' speculation without any evidence. Look at what happened after the Boston Marathon bombing.
Occam's razor certainly applied here. I wonder if that rampant speculation earlier shows how disconnected we are from reality. Our minds are certainly warped by the sugary fictions and media we consume.
It's not really amazing, HN is incredibly xenophobic, just look at literally any thread that happens to mention China, even tangentially. I guess that's what happens when the majority of the userbase is well off Americans.
Nothing wrong with unbounded speculation. Detectives have more facts to narrow the search space, whereas people online know a few facts: (a) CEO of a Nigerian start up; (b) regulatory problems in Nigeria; (c) fund raising. Don't blame the act of speculation; but blame the lack of additional facts.
If what is reported is true, then that is really sad.
Saleh's assistant Tyrese Haspil stole tens of thousands of dollars from him and instead of reporting him, he instead created a payment plan to be repaid.
Saleh showed compassion and that may have been a reason why he ended up dying in the end.
> Saleh showed compassion and that may have been a reason why he ended up dying in the end.
Yes, that's exactly what happened.
Lesson: report the crime to the police first. If you want to show compassion and keep the law out of your business, you can always refuse to cooperate with the investigation later, and they'll be obliged to drop the charges. But the perpetrator will know that they'll be at the top of the list if anything happens to you.
>> Saleh showed compassion and that may have been a reason why he ended up dying in the end.
The real lesson is that nobody should take the law into their own hands. Putting a criminal on a repayment program is a terrible idea especially with covid-19 economic crisis and so many people struggling to survive. During tough times, you should expect the worst of human nature.
> Police identified Haspil through “anti-felon identification cards that were spewed like confetti in Saleh’s apartment,” NBC New York reported.
Can someone explain what this is? I assumed the guy would quickly be suspect #1 once they combed through Saleh's computer and found discussions about the stolen money. What's this "anti-felon identification cards" reference about?
Looks like its a deterrent to someone using a Taser in a "bad" way:
> So in 1993 the AFID system was created. Now, when many Taser guns are fired, they disperse dozens of colourful anti-felon identification (AFID) tags, which resemble confetti and are printed with tiny serial numbers. It would be very time-consuming to pick all the tags up and so inevitably the police are able to find some and trace the (TASER) gun that was used.
When you fire a tazer, along with the wires a bunch of confetti sprays out as well. The confetti has id numbers on it that can be traced back to who purchased it.
I think this is the major point but it's side-tracked from the writer.
Here is an interesting tidbit:
> In order to track the weapon’s use, the cartridges containing the projectile darts are given serial numbers. When fired, the projectiles are accompanied by 20 to 30 vibrantly colored circular paper tags, a little smaller than one-quarter inch in diameter. The tag is known as an AFID with each AFID bearing a serial number printed on it corresponding to the serial number of the cartridge from which it was fired. Despite the bright colors of the AFIDs, their size makes them very difficult to detect. This presentation demonstrates a method for locating the released AFIDs using an alternate light source.
tl;dr: Tasers' use is traceable and identifiable. The assistant probably didn't know that.
The alleged killer won first place (along with another person) for website design in a Future Business Leaders of America competition held in Rochester. [1]
The NYT wouldn't have hesitated to publish Tyrese's photo had he been white and Fahim had been black. Probably their respective races would have even been mentioned in the headline.
I also don't like how they detail every sex crime a sexual assault. It's very confusing to know xx needs 50k for bail and yy needs 2k both for sexual assault which ranges greatly from groping to rape.
> Detectives believe that the killer, dressed in a black three-piece suit, wearing a black mask and carrying a duffel bag, followed Mr. Saleh off an elevator in his building and into his apartment, a law enforcement official said. He used a Taser to immobilize Mr. Saleh and then stabbed him to death.
It appears the security of the elevator opening directly into the victim's apartment and the COVID-19 crisis (the suspect was wearing a black mask) both played a role.
1. Why? Money. Works almost always. 2. Scary how little you can be killed for. 3. Scary how big of a risk to their own life people are willing to take for money. 4. Is it really money? Criminals are usually spendthrifts. All that stuff really doesn’t improve life much. Seems like status signals must be the real insatiable desire. 5. Rethinking, this seems like the work of a drug addict. The person has reasonable executive capacity (dopamine drive), but lacks empathy for others or their own future.
> Detectives believe that the motive for the killing stemmed from Mr. Saleh having discovered that the assistant had stolen tens of thousands of dollars from him, despite the fact that Mr. Saleh had not reported the man and had set up what amounted to a repayment plan for him to return the money, one of the officials said.
Tidbit from the article: He founded PrankDial.com and it's a $10M business.
I'd never heard of it. Wow... $10M run rate for a website that sends prank calls to others? Like "Chinese Apology" "Indian Tech Support"? Talk about a site that should be cancelled: https://www.prankdial.com/?category=services
Some years ago in Bethesda, Maryland, the manager of a Lululemon store was murdered by her assistant after she confronted the woman about money gone missing. The assistant gave herself some minor injuries and tried to sell the police a story of a man breaking in and attacking them. The story fell apart pretty quickly.
This sounds like something Patrick Bateman, from American Psycho, would do. However, in the book/movie, he doesn't get caught and didn't do this act for financial reasons.
A seemingly normal person goes and dismember his colleague after things doesn’t go his way when he when in for a scam. Why is it not 1st degree murder?
This is utterly tragic. Not sure that there’s a lesson to be learned other than life is short and people can be unpredictable. Must be so hard for his sister and family.
There are cameras everywhere nowadays. I don't understand how someone thinks they can realistically get away with something like this, especially in the middle of NYC in broad daylight.
This is sad. I’m thinking the assistant was planning on sawing the ceo up and dump him in a river. Which doesn’t make sense. He would be a suspect on the list if Saleh had disapeared. Unless he planned to make out like a bandit into a country that doesn’t extradite criminals.
I guess the theory would be that - if the body was never discovered, the police wouldn't be able to prove a crime occurred. They would simply have questioned a couple of people and if none of them 'broke', they would have been let go
[+] [-] aikinai|5 years ago|reply
Amazing how far this is from all the early speculation. Also incredibly sad.
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[+] [-] imranq|5 years ago|reply
Occam's razor certainly applied here. I wonder if that rampant speculation earlier shows how disconnected we are from reality. Our minds are certainly warped by the sugary fictions and media we consume.
[+] [-] duxup|5 years ago|reply
I wondered about that quote.
What are the odds a given law enforcement offical would ever even see / know the results of a "professional"?
The few "professional" folks I can think of historically, usually also dispose of the body...
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Ya try to do someone a favor... maybe not for someone why stole 10s of thousands of dollars from you?
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[+] [-] interesting_att|5 years ago|reply
It absolutely was due to his work in Nigeria.
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[+] [-] colmvp|5 years ago|reply
Saleh's assistant Tyrese Haspil stole tens of thousands of dollars from him and instead of reporting him, he instead created a payment plan to be repaid.
Saleh showed compassion and that may have been a reason why he ended up dying in the end.
[+] [-] throw_m239339|5 years ago|reply
This. He wanted to give that guy a second chance by not involving the authorities, which shows how good hearted Saleh was.
The murderer needs to spend the rest of his life in prison, for a crime he obviously premeditated.
[+] [-] injb|5 years ago|reply
Yes, that's exactly what happened.
Lesson: report the crime to the police first. If you want to show compassion and keep the law out of your business, you can always refuse to cooperate with the investigation later, and they'll be obliged to drop the charges. But the perpetrator will know that they'll be at the top of the list if anything happens to you.
[+] [-] bdowling|5 years ago|reply
Or Salah thought that he probably wouldn't get his money back if Haspil was arrested, so he made a deal with him.
[+] [-] cryptica|5 years ago|reply
The real lesson is that nobody should take the law into their own hands. Putting a criminal on a repayment program is a terrible idea especially with covid-19 economic crisis and so many people struggling to survive. During tough times, you should expect the worst of human nature.
[+] [-] canada_dry|5 years ago|reply
Can someone explain what this is? I assumed the guy would quickly be suspect #1 once they combed through Saleh's computer and found discussions about the stolen money. What's this "anti-felon identification cards" reference about?
[+] [-] mrjaeger|5 years ago|reply
> So in 1993 the AFID system was created. Now, when many Taser guns are fired, they disperse dozens of colourful anti-felon identification (AFID) tags, which resemble confetti and are printed with tiny serial numbers. It would be very time-consuming to pick all the tags up and so inevitably the police are able to find some and trace the (TASER) gun that was used.
https://www.mentalfloss.com/uk/law/31712/why-is-there-confet...
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[+] [-] williamscales|5 years ago|reply
It turns out Tasers spew many little tags with unique identifiers on them when fired.
[+] [-] csomar|5 years ago|reply
Here is an interesting tidbit:
> In order to track the weapon’s use, the cartridges containing the projectile darts are given serial numbers. When fired, the projectiles are accompanied by 20 to 30 vibrantly colored circular paper tags, a little smaller than one-quarter inch in diameter. The tag is known as an AFID with each AFID bearing a serial number printed on it corresponding to the serial number of the cartridge from which it was fired. Despite the bright colors of the AFIDs, their size makes them very difficult to detect. This presentation demonstrates a method for locating the released AFIDs using an alternate light source.
tl;dr: Tasers' use is traceable and identifiable. The assistant probably didn't know that.
[+] [-] mconbere|5 years ago|reply
https://www.mentalfloss.com/uk/law/31712/why-is-there-confet...
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[+] [-] pdevr|5 years ago|reply
Stunning, sad and macabre. Nothing else to say.
[1] http://www.vschsd.org/News/Story.aspx?id=35361
[+] [-] sowellecho|5 years ago|reply
The coverage of this story reminds me of this tweet:
https://twitter.com/ComicDaveSmith/status/127987036677366169...
[+] [-] anonymous38529|5 years ago|reply
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8534097/Murdered-Ne...
The NYT wouldn't have hesitated to publish Tyrese's photo had he been white and Fahim had been black. Probably their respective races would have even been mentioned in the headline.
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> Detectives believe that the killer, dressed in a black three-piece suit, wearing a black mask and carrying a duffel bag, followed Mr. Saleh off an elevator in his building and into his apartment, a law enforcement official said. He used a Taser to immobilize Mr. Saleh and then stabbed him to death.
It appears the security of the elevator opening directly into the victim's apartment and the COVID-19 crisis (the suspect was wearing a black mask) both played a role.
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Wow, that’s really sad.
[+] [-] kindatrue|5 years ago|reply
I'd never heard of it. Wow... $10M run rate for a website that sends prank calls to others? Like "Chinese Apology" "Indian Tech Support"? Talk about a site that should be cancelled: https://www.prankdial.com/?category=services
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Oh wow .. I remember that site. Man, this entire situation just stinks :(.
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