[allover]

> large React applications tend to be just as heavyweight and hard to understand as Angular ones once you need a router, state manager, and 20 or 30 other "compact" libraries to do what you're trying to do.

I largely disagree with the comment you're replying to in its oversimplification of things, however, this simply isn't true. 'Create React App' plus 'React-Router' is literally all you need for the vast majority of applications.

And you don't need "20 or 30 other compact libraries", unless what you're doing is specialised and requires them.

The idea you need "a state manager" is an unfortunate fallacy, due to React/Facebook's history by accidentally implying a Flux-like solution should be added to augment React, when in fact so much more could be achieved by simply following React's component model, and React's built-in mechanisms for managing state.

[kzzzznot]

Aren’t form validation and http also separate libraries for React?

[robertoandred]

Only if you need form validation or http options the browser doesn't provide...