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From Ireland, been looking at shenanigans in UK for last 4 years while scratching my head at the madness which seems to have taken over.

Almost daily get contacts on linkedin for jobs both relocation and remote in UK (London and Belfast) and each time I politely point out to the recruiter that (beside the already lower salaries which have not kept up with fall in pounds value) it would not be a wise move to attach one to UK at this time due to all the uncertainty, also there has been a rush of companies setting up here opening up many opportunities while remaining in Europe.

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secondcoming|5 years ago

London's different. If the world economy falls apart I'd rather be in London than Dublin for job seeking purposes.

black_puppydog|5 years ago

If the world economy falls apart I'd rather be in a place that produces anything tangible than in London

throwaway122kk|5 years ago

I would have agreed with you up to few years ago, but now Dublin has a vibrant jobs market in tech with salaries that are equal to higher than London with a less crazy (tho still crazy) cost of living.

Like I said the fall of pound has been spectacular in last 4-5 years.

* Engineer Dublin 2015 - €100K ~£70K

* Engineer Dublin 2020 - €125K ~£112K (5K eur increases per year)

* Engineer London 2015 - £70K ~€100K

* Engineer London 2020 - £95K ~€105K (5K gbp increases per year)

Both engineers start at same pay 5 years ago, both of them think they are moving up in the world with reasonable pay increases per year. One of them is being screwed by falling value of pound against just about every major currency due to Brexit and all the uncertainty.

dragonwriter|5 years ago

> London's different. If the world economy falls apart I'd rather be in London than Dublin for job seeking purposes.

If the word economy falls apart, cities that are disproportionately engaged in finance and especially international finance like London and New York are going to be the worst places to be for jobs in the short-term.

A little while after the initial chaos and collapse, they'll be great places for rebuilding jobs, though.

AndyMcConachie|5 years ago

The cost of living in London eats up any salary benefit. Once you factor in actually having to live in London, or a murderous commute, there is almost no benefit to living in London unless you're young or work in finance. If you're young there are opportunities in London you can't find elsewhere in English speaking Europe if you're willing to live like a pauper for a bit.

jkinudsjknds|5 years ago

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0xy|5 years ago

Average salary for Software Developers.

Ireland: €37,741

London: €51,686

Software Developer jobs on Indeed.

All of Ireland: 1,016

Just London: 5,650

Software Developer roles listed at over 90k EUR.

All of Ireland: 27

Just London: 1,033

If you're a talented senior-level developer you'll lose tens of thousands of Euros by choosing to work in a much colder market. In retirement, this could mean you'll lose half a million euros or more (with compounding investments).

throwaway122kk|5 years ago

"Developer" vs "Engineer"

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Software Engineer 50K eur Dublin / 50K gbp London

https://www.linkedin.com/salary/search?countryCode=ie&geoId=...

https://www.linkedin.com/salary/search?countryCode=gb&geoId=...

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Senior Software Engineer 70K eur Dublin / 68K gbp London

https://www.linkedin.com/salary/search?countryCode=ie&geoId=...

https://www.linkedin.com/salary/search?countryCode=gb&geoId=...

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Principal Software Engineer 85K eur Dublin / 80K gbp London