[dashwav]

I have been looking for a solution to this problem for a very long time and my reasoning is that on a trackpad, natural makes a lot of sense intuitively, since you are "pushing" the document (page/app/whatever) the direction you want it to move.

Whereas when I am using a mouse I feel like I the document is below the mouse more or less and when I move the scrollwheel it is physically moving the document as if it was tied to the scrollwheel.

Not sure if that makes any sense, as this is just some internal feelings on it, but I have beeen manually toggling the natural scroll when i plug and unplug my mouse ever since I started using MacOs

[aptgetrekt]

Yeah I think the exact same way! The top of the physical wheel spins the opposite direction of the bottom of the wheel which would be "touching" the page/content. Originally I was going to just make a background script to automatically toggle the option when it detects certain USB devices (like my mouse) but I couldn't find a way to apply settings changed via the "defaults write" command without logging out and then back in. In my research I came across discrete-scroll and scroll reverser on GitHub. Discrete-scroll worked in Catalina but had no GUI, and Scroll Reverser didn't work reliably on Catalina. So I combined the ideas from both in as little Swift code as possible so that anyone using my app wouldn't need to worry about allowing the app to "control your computer".

[dashwav]

I have to say I really appreciate this! I was going down very similar lines just last week (I had installed Hammerspoon and was experimenting with some applescript hacks, but to no avail).

Just intercepting the actual scroll and inverting it is a really elegant solution (that doesn't require a relog) which is great.

This solves one of the two biggest gripes I had about MacOs - with the other being my inablility to "pin" my dock to one of my monitors, overriding the swap functionality. Thanks!

[dasb]

I've always pictured scrolling as moving a camera or visor over a static sheet.

[dustincoates]

I'm the same as you, and it also took me a while to figure out why it was. The best explanation I could come up with is that it felt like I was moving the scroll bar with a scroll wheel, while that's clearly not the case when I'm using a trackpad or touch.