[dilandau]

This is the comment I wish I had made. The transition from 2 to 3 was terrible for end users, distros, and app developers. I wonder if redhat is trying to embrace/extend/extinguish because it's impossible for me to see gtk (and gnome) teams actions as anything less than overtly hostile.

[cycloptic]

Please don't. It's getting rather boring to see the baseless conspiracy theories that show up whenever an article is posted about gtk, gnome or systemd. Apparently they're trying to embrace extend extinguish their own business now?

[dilandau]

When 1 company is responsible for the most cancerous, complicated, baroque, developer-hostile libraries? I think it's fine to ask these questions.

Would you create a new open-source desktop application using gtk4? Would you want to package and maintain systemd/pulse/etc?

Also: why are you responding to all the critical comments in the thread, and writing dismissive replies?

[hedora]

Agreed.

Also, systemd seems similarly hostile and is also from redhat.

Wayland... does seem to be solving some real problems, but the transition hasn’t been going well either.