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linkmotif | 5 years ago

Example: my life. My sister is woke: I can't really say what I think around her. Lots of my "friends" are woke: can't really talk to them.

And mind you, my opinions aren't like of that guy who worked at Google and wrote "if women weren't bad at math, wouldn't they be working with computers?" or whatever that guy wrote. That's not my style of thinking.

But my style of thinking is definitely not "woke" and therefore many of my thoughts would easily be categorized as hate speech or something by woke people.

My vibe is the people who keep saying free speech these days isn't a problem are the same people who demand you only speak their orthodoxy. Always has, always will be.

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lgleason|5 years ago

> "if women weren't bad at math, wouldn't they be working with computers?"

That is not what he said. Read the memo. That said I agree with the rest of your points.

notmarkus|5 years ago

Sounds like you're pigeonholing Damore (of Google Memo fame) the same way that you don't want to be. You should read the original memo, and not an opinionated summary of it, it's not long. You may find that you were sold a lie about it.

kangnkodos|5 years ago

I've read the 10 page memo several times. I strongly disagree with his central ideas. However, I see them as political thoughts. Political thoughts I strongly disagree with. And the way I look at it, he was fired because of two things.

1) He had right wing political ideas which most people at Google strongly disagree with.

2) He wrote them down in a shared work forum.

I've read second hand accounts of many unusual ideas which have been shared on internal Google forums. I agree with lots. I also disagree with lots, both left and right.

But it was only the guy on the right who got fired. I'm not aware of anyone ever getting fired from Google for expressing far left political ideas. Let me know if I'm wrong on this.

It's 2020. Today's lesson is that if I have an idea out of the accepted mainstream of my company, and they are on the right, then keep my mouth shut, or I'll be fired. If the idea is on the left, I can go ahead and share my thoughts.