Spotify censored Joe Rogan episodes

[nem_pet]

Episodes:

1461 Owen Smith

1458 d'Elia

1356 Michael Shermer

1303 Tommy Chong

1296 Joe List

1255 Alex Jones Returns

1182 Nick Kroll

1164 Mikhaila Peterson

1093 Owen Benjamin / Kurt Metzger

998 Owen Benjamin

980 Chris d'Elia

979 Sargon of Akkad

(Edit): the whole list can be found

https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/ikf9at/full_list_...

[jasode]

Fyi... part of Rogan's deal he signed with Spotify requires him to delete his videos from Youtube by the end of the year so Spotify becomes the "exclusive" place for JRE.

I didn't know about this until a few weeks ago. Apparently, some folks have already archived (i.e. youtube-dl) all of his old videos before they disappear.[0]

It would be interesting to check back next year and see if these Spotify rejected/censored podcasts remain on Youtube.

[0] https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/gmuoyu/joe_rog...

[hayd]

I don't think this is the case. It's that new episodes will be exclusive to Spotify and won't be uploaded to YouTube.

edit: No, my mistake, the suggestion is that all but 100 or so videos will be migrated and then deleted from YouTube. I guess I'd misunderstood the earlier statements!

[sfgweilr4f]

Now we know which episodes are the most interesting. Also which guests reveal who/what can't be criticised or discussed.

That said, I'm not surprised that Alex "they're turnin' the friggin frogs gay" Jones is on that list.

[aaron695]

Yes, things being put into water were claimed by scientist to be turning frogs gay, which is why he made the comment.

"Scientists are continuing to sound the alarm about some common chemicals, including the herbicide atrazine, and link them to changes in reproductive health and development. Endocrine disrupting toxic chemicals have been found to feminize male frogs and cause homosexual behavior. "

(2011) https://www.loe.org/shows/segments.html?programID=11-P13-000...

He even goes to lengths to say he doesn't hate gay people, he just doesn't want to be turned gay without consent.

"And I'm not saying people didn't naturally have homosexual feelings. I'm not even getting into it, quite frankly. I mean, give me a break. Do you think I'm like, oh, shocked by it, so I'm up here bashing it because I don't like gay people?"

Him saying it, and I do get what he's doing, putting real media bullshit together to form a narrative -

https://youtu.be/THFoayEgsV8?t=291

So yes, I do want to see him, it's important to see what he's really like. It takes to seconds for his fans to know the frogs are gay from polluted water is a science thing.

[gridlockd]

Of all the questionable claims that Alex Jones has made, you picked one that's actually true.

Endocrine disruptors should be a serious environmental concern, but now that Alex Jones talked about it, I guess we can safely ignore it.

[gridlockd]

I suspect this has to be more to do with particular things said on these episodes that may make Spotify legally liable, rather than a blacklist of people. Eddie Bravo and Joey Diaz have been on tons of episodes other than the ones listed. I can't even imagine JRE without Joey as a regular.

Some people strike me as particularly odd for blacklisting: Louis Theroux, Brian Dunning and Rickson Gracie must be politically uncontroversial, unless I'm missing something.

[raxxorrax]

I don't know his show, but these are probably the episodes that are most interesting. Controversial stuff is often the most interesting...

[bigbassroller]

classic Barbara Streisand Effect https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

[mhh__]

I think some of these might just be cleaning up for advertising? e.g. "Sarkon of Akkad" (Carl Benjamin) is an unpleasant liar who once declared "I wouldn't even rape you" to a politician online - not exactly perfect for advertiser's on Spotify Free?

[polytely]

Weird to see Louis Theroux on that list, who isn't that controversial at all, is Spotify afraid to incur the wrath of Scientology?

[dogma1138]

It looks like there was a copyright strike against that video which could be the reason why that episode wasn’t on boarded.

[bookmarkable]

It is not a podcast, it’s a Spotify show. They can do what they want. A podcast is openly distributed.

[1cvmask]

Does anyone know if Joe Rogan allows for censorship on the part of Spotify?

Tommy Chong the comedian has managed to make the list of censored folks. Now I feel compelled to look up the others.

[LatteLazy]

When he first announced the move, he expressly stated they would not be censoring future episodes or interfering at all, he would maintain 100% control...

Edit, source in case it's relevant:

>"It will remain free, and it will be the exact same show," said Rogan. "It's just a licensing deal, so Spotify won't have any creative control over the show.

>"They want me to just continue doing it the way I'm doing it right now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-52736364

[thelastinuit]

Wth... i enjoyed JRE for the openness of having controversial people and a space for them to talk freely... seeing that list... well, i’m done with Joe. Sad. Very sad.

[srtjstjsj]

Joe has $100M to comfort himself with that loss.

[jcims]

Full list from here: https://old.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/ikf9at/full_list_...

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1461 - Owen Smith

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1458 - Chris D'Elia

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1456 - Michael Shermer

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1303 - Tommy Chong

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1296 - Joe List

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1255 - Alex Jones Returns

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1182 - Nick Kroll

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1164 - Mikhaila Peterson

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1093 - Owen Benjamin & Kurt Metzger

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1033 - Owen Benjamin

The Joe Rogan Experience - #998 - Owen Benjamin

The Joe Rogan Experience - #980 - Chris D'Elia

The Joe Rogan Experience - #979 - Sargon of Akkad

The Joe Rogan Experience - #920 - Gavin McInnes

The Joe Rogan Experience - #911 - Alex Jones & Eddie Bravo

The Joe Rogan Experience - #820 - Milo Yiannopoulos

The Joe Rogan Experience - #750 - Kip Andersen & Keegan Kuhn, producers of Conspiracy

The Joe Rogan Experience - #710 - Gavin McInnes

The Joe Rogan Experience - #702 - Milo Yiannopoulos

The Joe Rogan Experience - #640 - Charles C. Johnson

The Joe Rogan Experience - #582 - David Seaman

The Joe Rogan Experience - #538 - Stefan Molyneux

The Joe Rogan Experience - #524 - Rickson Gracie

The Joe Rogan Experience - #520 - David Seaman

The Joe Rogan Experience - #487 - David Seaman

The Joe Rogan Experience - #463 - Louis Theroux

The Joe Rogan Experience - #461 - David Seaman

The Joe Rogan Experience - #454 - War Machine

The Joe Rogan Experience - #441 - Brian Dunning

The Joe Rogan Experience - #368 - David Seaman

The Joe Rogan Experience - #361 - Dave Asprey, Tait Fletcher

The Joe Rogan Experience - #331 - Dr. Steven Greer

The Joe Rogan Experience - #303 - Matt Vengrin, Brian Redban

The Joe Rogan Experience - #275 - Dave Asprey

The Joe Rogan Experience - #256 - David Seaman

The Joe Rogan Experience - #239 - Adam Kokesh

The Joe Rogan Experience - #213 - Eddie Bravo

The Joe Rogan Experience - #199 - Joey Diaz

The Joe Rogan Experience - #182 - Bryan Callen, Jimmy Burke, Brian Redban

The Joe Rogan Experience - #128 - Joey Diaz, Brian Redban

The Joe Rogan Experience - #119 - Jan Irvin

The Joe Rogan Experience - #108 - Joey Diaz, Brian Redban

The Joe Rogan Experience - #98 - Daryl Wright & Brian Whitaker

The Joe Rogan Experience - #97 - Freddy Lockhart, Brian Redban

The Joe Rogan Experience - #81 - Pete Johansson

The Joe Rogan Experience - #57 - Jayson Thibault, Brian Redban

[swiley]

The only thing surprising about this is how quickly it happened.

Podcasts are just RSS feeds with audio (or even video now apparently, no one seems to use that but it solves the “videos are only discoverable on YouTube” problem.) You don’t need to be part of any special platform to host them. Maybe someone should set up one of those PSA sites.

[tmaly]

I can still see these old episodes on my podcast app. I just tried downloading one of them and I was able to.

[dec0dedab0de]

It is concerning that the last main stream sanctuary of free speech might have been compromised.

However, as of right now we dont know if Spotify censored these episodes, if Rogan censored them himself, or if they just didnt upload them yet. It's only 9 hours in to the first day, no need to jump to conclusions yet.

[thinkcontext]

Really, a link to a reddit thread? Can't we get something resembling journalism instead of ranting fanboys spreading rumors.

I recognize few people on that list but I can see why Spotify wouldn't want the headache with advertisers over Alex Jones, Milo Y and Gavin Mcinnes. Rogan chose this when he went exclusive with Spotify.

[haunter]

>Can't we get something resembling journalism instead of ranting fanboys spreading rumors

I don't see ranting nor rumors.

Go to Spotify and you can see those episodes are missing.

Also what does "resembling journalism" mean? Reddit is a perfect to cover topics like that

[chiefalchemist]

I don't enjoy being the one to say this but censored is the wrong word. Censoring is something governments do. We can't keep using the wrong words and expect communication and discourse to improve. Words matter.

[wccrawford]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censor

As a verb, it's used the same as Merriam Webster defines it. There is no need for it to be the government, just someone that is suppressing or deleting things that are objectionable.

Everyone knows what is meant here, so there's no problem with the clarity of communication.

[gridlockd]

No, it isn't, please stop repeating this misconception. Censoring and censorship are not limited to governments.

Many TV stations literally have censorship departments, whose job it is to decide what is and isn't shown, in line with the agenda of the network, not merely what the law mandates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_censorship