[CCstal]

Not at all. Its a step in the right direction. Who wants to go to work full of sweat or go meet friends quite a few km away and show up sweating.

People forget that bike riders, once its past a certain amount of distance will sweat + are exposed to the elements. Sure ebikes help with this. But nobody in my country is going to go to work in a full suit + on a bike.

[yodsanklai]

> Not at all. Its a step in the right direction. Who wants to go to work full of sweat or go meet friends quite a few km away and show up sweating

When considering what the right direction is, you should consider convenience, but also environmental impact. It's a trade-off to be made.

[Tade0]

It's not that clear cut.

Humans are terrible at turning food into energy, and only the most efficient (vegan) foods have a footprint below 1g CO2/kcal.

Your typical vegan on a bicycle has a footprint of 22g CO2/km and that's the best you can get with human-powered transport.

The Ami has a driving footprint of 7g / km in France, a 5.5kWh battery, which has a one-time impact of ~450kg, and seats two.

Long term it's the less impactful opttion really, especially if you take into account that only 2% of the population is vegan.

[giardini]

CCstal says >"People forget that bike riders, once its past a certain amount of distance will sweat + are exposed to the elements.">

Driving home yesterday in a light rain I saw a gentleman in a bright yellow soccer shirt riding a bicycle slowly on the sidewalk. A wide stripe of dark brown mud ran up his back and onto his helmet! As I drove past I just had to laugh and wonder what the front wheel was doing to him!

No one owned a bicycle without fenders when I was young; today finding a bike with fenders is difficult. And some of today's aftermarket fenders are ridiculously flimsy.

I do not understand the absence of fenders on today's bicycles.

[agumonkey]

market dynamics .. people want bikes for leisure not long distance trip fully clothed

[amwelles]

This is why I love it when offices have showers at work. Commute in, shower, show up for work fresh. No need to do cardio outside of my ride in and out, so it’s saving me time in a way because it’s built into something I’m already doing.

I know not all offices have showers, but it was something I looked for when I was deciding on a coworking space a couple of years ago.

[CCstal]

The office I currently work in does have one shower. It wouldn't be feasible if everyone had to use it. The early gym birds use it, the bike riders don't. And this is an office of 60 people.