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zaro | 5 years ago

> Belittling the holocaust doesn't do anything to help the fight for this cause. if anything, it hurts it.

Theoreytically that might be true. The fact is that today 70 years after the event, and several other genocides the amount ot attention all these other genocides that happened is miniscule compared to the attention that holocoust gets.

So there is clearly something wrong, in the whole "let's not allow genocide happen again by remebering holocaut" story.

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krapp|5 years ago

>The fact is that today 70 years after the event, and several other genocides the amount ot attention all these other genocides that happened is miniscule compared to the attention that holocoust gets.

Most attention given to the Holocaust nowadays is by Holocaust deniers, outside of the occasional Memorial day war story. It's not as if the news media is covering Holocaust related stories on a loop non-stop instead of these other genocides.

>So there is clearly something wrong, in the whole "let's not allow genocide happen again by remebering holocaust" story.

History repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as farce. Those for whom the Holocaust was in living memory are almost all dead, to their children and grandchildren, the Holocaust is a family story, essentially tribal myth, important and compelling but still only indirectly a part of their reality. For the next generation, the Holocaust is no more real than the Trojan war or scouring of the Shire.

It's impossible not to forget, and it's impossible for most people to care about something that happened almost a century ago. It doesn't help that there are constant, active efforts to undermine and deny the Holocaust alongside the inevitable dilution of the event with the passage of time.

The problem is that genocide was shocking in the 1940s, when people first saw the bodies stacked like cordwood in newsreels, and the emaciated faces of the survivors liberated from the camps which is why the Holocaust in particular has lasting and specific historical impact, but now genocide has become mundane.

Hell, the primary opinion in this thread seems to be that the Holocaust is overrated, and people are arguing about genocides like music hipsters arguing over bands. If that's not evidence of how detached people have become from the Holocaust, then I don't know what would be.

watwut|5 years ago

Holocaust happened here and was done mainly by western country. It was very much result of western ideologies. It was also successor of history of pogroms and antisemitism that existed in Europe. Europe still have some of people who did lived through it. The movements that made holocaust happen and their ideologies still exist and are alive in Europe and in western countries.

America is quite close culturally, literally fought in that war, literally fought a lot in that war because Germany was threat to America too. America did not had just few units in WWII, it was major player.

It would not be surprising for history of "us" and politics of "us" be more prominent in western countries then history that happens in different countries. Afaik, in Cambodia, they do talk about their genocide and have museums of it.

zaro|5 years ago

>Holocaust happened here and was done mainly by western country

I know it will sound very controversial, but take it notch further and you will see it not so much because was done by western countries. Western countries have done plenty of genocides. It is because it was done to white people .

>The movements that made holocaust happen and their ideologies still exist and are alive in Europe and in western countries.

Actually Hitler drew a lot of inspiration from USA and its eugenics attempts.

> Afaik, in Cambodia, they do talk about their genocide and have museums of it.

20 something year old from Cambodia, have no clue who Paul Pot is. Speaking from personal experience with people from Cambodia.