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0-O-0 | 5 years ago

What was wrong with it, assuming it's factually correct?

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Ericson2314|5 years ago

There evidentially is hardware logic in the battery itself so it's not factually correct. You might damange other pinephone components but the batter shouldn't catch fire.

I wouldn't trust something as overly-complex as Linux to prevent fires anyways.

megous|5 years ago

Ok, so go to the Pinephone battery spec (everything is publicly available) and point me to where it says the in-battery protection circuit protects the under/overtemperature condition.

In fact it's just the common protection circuit that just cares about over/under voltage and over-current conditions (mostly just a short, because the cuttoff current limit is 6-8A and battery's max recommended sustained current is 1.4A). So you can overload the battery 3-4x for however long you want, and that circuit will do nothing.

https://megous.com/dl/tmp/d7402d89fca1a418.png

choward|5 years ago

The thing that about me the most is how much it's pushing fear without any evidence of something bad actually happening. Has there been a single pinephone that has caught on fire?

linmob|5 years ago

I am not aware of any case of fire. So unless it caused such a bad fire, that everybody involved died, I think I would know about it having followed the PinePhone very closely, especially since June for my blog.

That said, as the fix seems to be rather trivial, distributions should just check and ship a new kernel if necessary.

harpiaharpyja|5 years ago

I don't get this criticism. Doesn't it make sense to raise the alarm before the fire happens?

megous|5 years ago

Yes, there were cases of Pinephone burning people's fingers, due to modem being used as a heatsink, and distros not doing any testing about thermal regulation working. You can easily get the modem to heat up to 70-80 deg C in that case. With regulation on, it would not get over 60, which while not pleasant is not at least hurtful.

Causality1|5 years ago

Seconding this question. If it'd been me writing the article, and all the claims are true, it would've been a profanity-laced screed condemning the entire project as a pack of incompetent morons.

It wouldn't charge so we turned off thermal regulation

Jesus effing Christ.

asou|5 years ago

Move fast and break things !

I recall once a co worker said they'd never use Android again since it froze when trying to call 911.

Gives Apple more ammo in their fight against Epic, users expect their phones to work , which Apple can't guarantee if anyone can run whatever binary they find.