[justinmeiners]

Is he mean? Or do associate those views with mean people.

I just don't understand why everyone needs to be a PR polished suit. These people work on computers, not administer public policy. We can appreciate their contributions and ignore their quirks or the fact they don't have all the popular opinions.

[bhaak]

It's the other way around. Just because somebody is good in one area that doesn't mean they have any authority in another, unrelated one.

Putting people on a podest and excusing untolerable behavior is plain toxic.

It is not wanting that everyone needs to be a PR polished suit, just wanting that people are decent human beings.

[justinmeiners]

> Just because somebody is good in one area that doesn't mean they have any authority in another

Precisely what I am saying. We can applaud Nick for contributions to cryptography without importing his views of other things. We don't have to weigh his political opinions at all.

> just wanting that people are decent human beings.

This sounds to me like "having views I like, because only undecent people would think otherwise". Do you have an instance of Nick being nasty or indecent?