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The New York Times Guild Once Again Demands Censorship of Colleagues

77 points| dandare | 5 years ago |theintercept.com | reply

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[+] dexen|5 years ago|reply
For reference, the Guild's tweet [1] (since deleted):

"It says a lot about an organization when it breaks it's own rules and goes after one of it's own. The act, like the article, reeks."

The tweet was condemning an op-ed by Bret Stephens[2], that applied mild criticism to The 1619 Project's playing fast-and-loose with history.

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[1] https://archive.is/705Tu

[2] https://archive.is/GTx3B

[+] belval|5 years ago|reply
Thank you for taking the time to link the article, that was a very good read.

I find it a stunning display of arrogance that journalists feel free to rewrite history in spite of multiple historians telling them that they are flat out wrong. Do they not understand that by doing these mental gymnastics to fit history to their biases, they are acting in bad faith exactly like a certain politician lying for public approval?

[+] theandrewbailey|5 years ago|reply
It gets worse:

https://twitter.com/benyt/status/1315451891338313728

> Someone else active in the Times Union tells me that a leader of the chapter, who runs the account, tweeted about the Stephens column without any internal discussion, causing a furor in Slack and drawing heated objections from others in the Guild, and leading to this

[+] marcusverus|5 years ago|reply
The person in charge of the NYT guild Twitter account doesn't know it's from its. The newspaper of record, everyone.

A nice reminder that these types are always the loudest, but rarely the best and brightest of the bunch.

[+] yostrovs|5 years ago|reply
The grammatical errors are disturbing to see, considering it's a tweet by a guild of New York Times.
[+] vvG94KbDUtRa|5 years ago|reply
Where would anyone get the idea that a columnist shouldn't criticize other writers at a paper? Everyone who works there is supposed to have the same ideas about everything?
[+] marcusverus|5 years ago|reply
One writer wrote the 1619 project, which was publicly called out for lying about American history to advance a racially divisive narrative in times of racial sensitivity. They had to issue corrections, and followed up recently with a round of unacknowledged stealth edits. That was fine.

These folks didn't criticize the writer whose agenda piece embarrassed the paper. But they criticize a writer for criticizing that article?

How can a guild that makes this kind of bizarre decisions, which are clearly agenda-drive and divorced from any commitment to objective truth, be trusted with the newspaper of record?

[+] belval|5 years ago|reply
Of course! Just like the graduate school always block papers that criticise pre-existing work. /s
[+] syspec|5 years ago|reply
> Update: Oct. 11, 2020, 8:40 p.m. ET The New York Times Guild moments ago deleted its tweet denouncing Stephens and the paper, and then posted this [tweet by Nyt guild saying the deleted tweet was tweeted in error]