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Adolphe Sax, Inventor of the Saxophone

75 points| bobf | 5 years ago |dinant.be

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jacquesm|5 years ago

Also, note that technically a Saxophone is a woodwind, not brass. I played the saxophone for half my life and it is still my favorite instrument sound wise, even though I can no longer play it due to a lung issue. Also, it is quite close to the human voice which makes it very nice to interact with singing voices. Fantastic invention, and modern music really would not be the same without it. Try the solos in Baker Street and Year of the Cat, then try the same songs with that same solo on a different instrument and see for yourself.

What I love about this article is that it shows how much work used to go into 'designing a sound', something that we do today with synthesizers by the tweak of some buttons. That used to require a ton of craftsmanship and knowledge as well as the collaboration with others such as composers.

throwaway_pdp09|5 years ago

A question please, "and it is still my favorite instrument sound wise". Can the sax in general be said to have one sound? I knew 2 sax players at school, their instruments were much the same in size and appearance, excepting a little ornamentation on one. One was very smooth, it was a great sound. The other was much harsher, almost braying[0]. They seemed to be played with much the same high level of skill, so why the difference? They both sounded like saxes but...

[0] edit; certainly in tune but quite harsh, rough as a terrier's coat

jojobas|5 years ago

Fun fact: a cone open on one end (saxophone) supports all harmonics, as does a cylinder open on both ends (flute).

A cylinder open on one end (clarinet) only supports odd harmonics, which is why a clarinet sounds "rounded" and overblows into a twelfth, rather than an octave (as on former two).

zoomablemind|5 years ago

Interesting observation is that sax having a conical bore and using a reed to induce the sound resembles an oboe. Indeed, the fingering is nearly the same. Yet, the brass resonates in a much brighter and louder way. The reed and the mouthpiece are of clarinet design, except of conical kind. A true hybrid, ingenious synthesis.

Oboe's sound is pliable, thanks to the double reed, player's embouchure, and the richer spectrum of the conical bore. On the other hand, clarinet's sound is more robust, but somewhat limited by the straight cylindrical bore. Marrying these two resulted in a robust yet richer sound. Let alone using brass for the body no need to worry so much about cracks and temperature swings. Perfect for outdoor performances!

Wish I've known these similarities back in the day ..., would've saved us lots of effort trying to blend in oboe sound into a 'cool' band - sax was all it needed! Oh, well, experimentation was fun still ...

dmoy|5 years ago

Also makes it stupid difficult to do clean sounding smooth octave jumps on a clarinet.

bobf|5 years ago

I played clarinet, piano, and guitar growing up, but before reading this I had no idea about the story of the relatively modern (i.e. post industrial revolution) invention of the saxophone. I never played jazz, but certainly appreciate it and this quote from the article really struck a chord with me, "Without jazz, what would music be? But without the sax, what would jazz be?"

leguminous|5 years ago

I find it fascinating that many of these instruments did not exist in their modern forms until around the same period. Playing clarinet in school, I had never really considered that our instruments weren't necessarily the same as the ones a piece had been composed for.

* The development of airtight pads for the clarinet in 1812 allowed manufacturers to add more keys, culminating in the modern Boehm system in 1839. The earlier clarinets looked like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3NCGSvKHCQ

* Between around 1800-1850, the piano gained the cast iron plate, stronger steel wires, and the double escapement action. 88 keys weren't common until the latter part of the century. Earlier pianos (fortepianos) looked like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ef95BZfYcw

* Antonio de Torres is credited with developing the modern classical guitar starting in the 1850's. Steel string guitars were developed later, and were made commercially by Gibson and Martin starting in the 1920's.

I also played the clarinet in school, took piano lessons at home, and am currently learning guitar. Great choices!

ibiza|5 years ago

> jazz was 'pummelled' by fanatics of rhythm and noise, which even discredited the sax

Sadly, I find this to be the case. I'm in the odd position of having grown up playing sax, and yet unable to enjoy it in the context of jazz.

philg_jr|5 years ago

If anyone is curious about some modern fusion of EDM and the saxophone, check out Big Gigantic (Dominic Lalli, tenor sax) and GRiZ (mostly alto sax). Seeing either of these guys live is more fun than I can describe. Also, Lalli put out a jazz album recently with a few other musicians, "A Blind Man's Blue".

4x5-Guy|5 years ago

I played alto and tenor sax in high school/college. What a great instrument. It still gives me chills when I hear a great sax tune.

tbejn|5 years ago

Dinant is beautiful city, famous for Sax, but well worth the visit. Adolphe's house is a small museum, well organized.

drlobster|5 years ago

If you do visit also get a Couque de Dinant, which I understand is the worlds hardest biscuit.

dehrmann|5 years ago

I always assumed the Sousaphone getting that name was almost a self-indulgent joke, but it's in better company than I realized.

incanus77|5 years ago

I grew up learning the alto sax (also occasionally subbed for tenor or even bari in my small school) in the late 80s and 90s. It was impossible to not have been influenced by Kenny G, somewhat unfortunately, as a tangible path to commercial success. Still SMH... I mean, talented guy, but complete Muzak, really.

I still have my 1987 Yamaha alto with Vandoren mouthpiece and pull it out every couple years. Remarkable piece of technology, really.