[aussiegeek]

It's actually very hard for Kiwis to get citizenship, because the special category visa that lets them live here permanently isn't actually permanent residency, and so there isn't a path to citizenship.

(Source: Kiwi friend who was trying to get citizenship for himself and his kids who were born here)

[philliphaydon]

Hmmm a few of the kiwis I went to school with all got citizenship.

[teruakohatu]

It changed not long ago.