[john_miller]

very very ballpark:

2010: 2 billion internet users, firefox has 30% market share => 600mio absolute users.

2019: 4.1 billion internet users, firefox has 4% market share => 165mio absolute users.

That's of course very rough and may be a severly off, but the absolute number of firefox users seem to have shrunk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#/m...

https://www.statista.com/statistics/273018/number-of-interne...

[bzbarsky]

> 4.1 billion internet users, firefox has 4% market share

Note that the denominator for market share as measured by StatCounter is "page views", not "browser users".

So for example, say you have 4.1 billion users, who use their laptop and phone evenly for their web browsing. On their phone, none of them use Firefox. All of them load the same number of pages every day. In this scenario, 4% of page views corresponds to 8% of users using Firefox on laptop.

Note that these are not realistic assumptions, of course: people vary widely in terms of how many pages they load, vary widely in terms of how their web activity is split between mobile and non-mobile, etc. For example, in 2010, I would bet that the average Firefox user used the web more than the average IE user, so the StatCounter number for Firefox was inflated compared to the actual fraction of users using Firefox.

If you want to measure actual number of Firefox users, you need to use a data service that tries to measure users instead of page views (i.e. not StatCounter).

[shadowgovt]

> On their phone, none of them use Firefox

As the world goes mobile, that by itself is disquieting for Mozilla.

[asveikau]

A bit tangential to your point but firefox for android isn't bad. I am using it to type this.

Not as snappy or polished as chrome on android to be honest.

I personally switched to it because I felt I give enough data to Google as it is. Probably not a great reason, because they still get a lot of data from me.

[berkes]

Worrying and indeed not good for Firefox, if correct.

However, when you simply multiply "browser share" with "amount of 'internet' users, you may very well make some grave mistakes. E.g. does "Browsing Tinder" count as 'internet user'? Someone updating their instagram app? If so, you do miss a lot and maybe the numbers go very far in either direction when corrected?

[fouc]

Just incredible how mozilla killed firefox with so many short sighted actions including taking google's money.