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iongoatb | 5 years ago

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dang|5 years ago

Please stop posting these.

iaw|5 years ago

We aren't talking about magnitude and frequency. If we were I could point out that communist governments tend to be younger and dealing with more domestic strife as a young government may lead to a higher likelihood of crimes being committed by the government regardless of political economic theory.

These phenomenons are not new and arguably were perfected before communism existed. Please don't muddy the waters to make this an attack on a political philosophy when these behaviors are an affront to human life regardless of who perpetrates them.

throwaway894345|5 years ago

I think it's fair to note that there is a lot of correlation between these kinds of atrocities and communist regimes. It's also fair for you to note that correlation isn't causation, and the cause (or causes) could be other things, such as the age of the regime. To which others could rebut further (e.g., this isn't the 18th or 19th century any more / genocide and ethnic violence are now exceptional / there are lots of countries to model oneself after; a young government could be "forgiven" for violations by rogue officers or soldiers but atrocities perpetrated under communist governments are routinely top-down policy; etc). This is reasonable debate and it's how we understand and solve issues collectively. Analysis like this is exactly the opposite of "muddying the waters".

Darmody|5 years ago

shouldn't we criticize nazism? Antisemitism and genocide are not new either.