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microcolonel | 5 years ago

If you're referring to the sentence containing “several members have been affiliated with white supremacy”, it kinda doesn't jive with the fact that their highest leadership position is filled by an afro-cuban man, and the fact that there is no official or de-facto-official Proud Boys public communication of anything regarding white supremacy other than condemnation of it, nor any official or sanctioned actions taken against visibly non-white groups or people.

I mean, if there were white supremacists in the Proud Boys, something that isn't even alleged in that article, surely they would not continue once the group was being led by a man who is like 25-75% black.

The only reason they are being framed so aggressively as white supremacists now, is that Joe Biden mentioned them on the debate stage. Rather than accounting for Joe Biden's ignorance or malice, the media preferred to alter public perception to justify his comments; and it looks like it sorta worked!

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Covzire|5 years ago

CNN, NYT etc are most certainly not telling the truth about them. Things are far less, to use a pun, black and white but their name is getting dragged through the mud by various outlets, journalists and politicians as if they were the incarnation of the next reich.

pdkl95|5 years ago

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/grou...

> There are three degrees of membership within the Proud Boys, and to become a first degree in the “pro-West fraternal organization” a prospective member simply has to declare “I am a western chauvinist, and I refuse to apologize for creating the modern world.”

The Proud Boys describe themselves as a "Western chauvinist". White supremacists have used "western values" as code for "white" for a long time. Chauvinism is the belief in the superiority of a group. "Western chauvinist" literally means "white supremacist". If you don't believe me, read the many quotes in the SPLC article above.

lawnchair_larry|5 years ago

They are not white supremacists no matter what the overtly biased SPLC says. Many of them are not even white, and their chairman is black. Trying to push this smear is just silly at this point. The media have taken to calling all anti-BLM or anti-antifa counter protesters “white supremacists” and it’s quite ridiculous.