It's frustrating but completely understandable that the author chose to do this in VScode. The value of having a highly-customizable editor that is extensible in a well-known language is great.
I really hope a true VSCode competitor will emerge in the future that is truly open source and not controlled by a company that does not have its users best interests in mind; all this Linux-friendly stuff Microsoft is doing lately is to basically get people into their ecosystem and then slowly push out Linux and other alternatives (e.g. who's using sublime / atom anymore?). There is some pithy name for this strategy that escapes me, but effectively it is the equivalent of dumping in commerce: use one's cash reserves to sell a product at a loss in order to squeeze out competitors, then capitalize on the cornered market (i.e. "All Hail Microsoft!" after trying to squeeze out others).
I really wish the Xi [0] editor gained more traction, though as an Emacs user I'm hoping the speedup with v28 and the GccEmacs [1] go a long way there. I would certainly like more parallelism though, e.g. `dired` mode not pausing the entire editor when moving a large file, and I've never really become fluent in elisp.
> not controlled by a company that does not have its users best interests in mind
The reason VS Code is so successful is exactly because it's under control of a company which has it's users best interests in mind. It's just that the users interest are not identical with some users political interest.
A users best interest is that the tool works without pain and solves the task at hand fast. Anything else comes afterwards. And VS Code is seems to be very dedicated to make exactly this possible. They don't compromise with pointless stuff, and focus on satisfying the most customers. And this works very well so far. Better than any open source-project I've seen to be honest.
Would the MIT license on vscode not protect you from the scenario you entertain?
Don't get me wrong. VS Code is most certainly a loss leader for the Microsoft ecosystem. This businessmodel for gaining developer mindshare is not new. It was pioneered by the free software ecosystem, but has been the defacto standard for some time now.
Well, Dendron itself is now supporting the language server protocol. So in reality you will be able to take your Dendron knowledge wherever that is supported imminently.
I have tried a number of note taking apps including Bear and Notable; I recently switched to MS OneNote because it's cross-platform from OSX to PC, making it easier for me to consolidate all my notes in once desktop app.
It's likely an unpopular choice given it's from 'Big-Co, Inc', etc, but it's hard to beat. My favorite feature that sold me is the ability to tab and instantly create an inline table (with each subsequent tab pressing creating additional columns). It's quite powerful and flexible. You can also add multiple text blocks to a note page allow for extra context to be placed anywhere. This isn't limited to just text, but adding a graphic to an existing text block, again anywhere on the note 'space'
Honestly, it's really quite an impressive note app and I've moved completely off of Bear in favor of it. The syncing is also free, which was something I was paying a yearly sub to Bear for. The cherry on-top is the also free iOS app which works really well too.
That said, I do think there is room for something like Dendron, which is pretty slick and I quite like that it's a VS-Code add-on. I'll def give it a serious look, nice job!
When it comes to ease in creating notes, image support, and pen support, Onenote is king. What Onenote falls short on is ease in retrieving notes. It lacks previews, thumbnails, indexes, table of contents, nested tags, or customizable sidepanels. You cant "flip" though your existing notes while keeping the current note or side panel in view.
This is where Dendron shines. Dendron's navigator side panel is clean of clutter and easy to navigate, even when you have hundreds of notes. You can also navigate your notebook by open TODOs, nested tags, saved (regex or non rgex) search filters, or by graph view.
I've used OneNote religiously for a dozen years as a daily notes app, but the Mac and Web experiences are terrible and I'm just sick of it not syncing tags across my machines. And now I have a new laptop and as far as I can tell the ability to add tags to shortcut keys is just gone. Why???
I like OneNote, but the main sticking point for me is that the mobile experience (at least on Android) is pretty terrible. It's so free-form that when you get to a smaller screen, I end up having constantly scroll around to view everything (maybe they should make it responsive like most websites?).
Also, it has quirky, but very annoying behavior, like how it won't save my position on a page after the screen turns off. This makes it challenging to get back to the step I was on in a complicated recipe (what I mostly use OneNote for now).
I was curious what was different about this than Roam/Obsidian/ect. and checked the FAQ:
> Dendron is a highly opinionated note taking tool that focuses on hierarchal note taking. It provides the freedom of Roam’s every note exists everywhere philosophy while layering on top flexible hierarchies to keep track of it all. [0]
Not sure how I feel about that approach. However, it does look pretty polished and I'll likely check it out at some point.
It seems that the core features of Dendron correspond most closely to Obsidian's, to the point that I thought it's an Obsidian skin, but Obsidian is closed source while Dendron isn't. Roam is a Web app whose unit of data is a text block - Obsidian's and Dendron's unit of data is a file Markdown file.
I haven't yet really tried to commit to one of these Roam-like tools (is there a word for a note-taking tool where every bullet is a nested note, and they can link to each other?), except for a small demo notebook I made, but I wonder how people feel they mesh with the concept of "evergreen" notes.
I've found from using Evernote for a decade that I've really focussed on making evergreen notes -- notes that I continue adding to over time. I worry that the Roam-like notebooks instead lead you to making a "Personal Wikipedia" of your knowledge, where many notes are just the stub of an article, because it's so easy to do.
I worry that, if I used this, instead of a 2-3 big pages on Topic X, I'd have 50 little notes on Topic X, which, yes, I can find through backlinks, but I would not have felt like I had synthesized.
The web platform I've created (https://quanta.wiki) has a lot of these same design principles, and I run a local copy of it for my personal note-taking.
Some day there should emerge some kind of de-facto winner in this category, because it's so sad that it's 2020 and there's still not a super wide-spread mass-adoption kind of general purpose app for handling hierarchical data and interacting with it.
When XML was invented I was sure it would change the world (and arguably, enabling RSS/Atom did), but now in 2020 you don't hear much about XML.
All word processors should be hierarchical rather than monolithic (linear), imo, and Quanta endeavors to show one way to do that in a wiki-like app.
Interesting but your app promotes this list of culture-war entertainers [0] and presents them as the "Intellectual Dark Web", including Ben "just sell your underwater house if the sea levels rise" Shapiro; that's a big red flag
> When XML was invented I was sure it would change the world (and arguably, enabling RSS/Atom did), but now in 2020 you don't hear much about XML.
XML is a data-format, not an enduser-format. It's used everywhere, what is there more to hear about it?
> All word processors should be hierarchical rather than monolithic (linear)
No, they should not, it's just a pain. Word processors have hierarchical view, but enforcing it would be a harmful. In the first place, word processors are not note-systems. It's not their job to manage your files.
Just quickly watched this[1] video showing an intro to Dendron.
I'm currently using tiddlywiki[2] so that's primarily what I'm comparing it too.
Both tiddlywiki and dendron look very similar, supporting various forms of linking to one another. Dendron seems to have a more complete hierarchical way of combining pages, at least compared to the way that I use tiddlywiki.
Tiddlywiki's advantage is the amount of plugins it has available. I think I also still prefer tiddlywiki because I just have it hosted on a server, so I can access my notes from whatever machine, including my phone. For dendron ( an electron app ) I'm guessing I would have to have some sort of Dropbox/Nextcloud system setup to sync notes between machines. The fact that I'm in my browser all the time and can just open a web page to access tiddlywiki is also preferable. The least amount of friction between a thought in my head to being able to write it down, the better.
I was interested in Dendron because looking at its website, dendron supports a graph visualization of all your notes, like concept mapping[3]. But unfortunately it doesn't look like this concept mapping feature is prioritized, or the main focus of dendron. That's really the main thing I would like to add to tiddlywiki, some sort of functional concept mapping feature. I've tried tiddlymap[4], but its not very well supported.
You're right, Dendron doesn't easily integrate with web clients yet. Files are plaintext markdown and most of our users are using dropbox/nextcloud setup.
That being said, Dendron lets you publish your notes as static sites (eg. https://dendron.so is just published using notes) and we'll be expanding this feature to do private hosting of notes with limited editing capabilities later in December
This is really interesting for me. I've just got into roam the last few months after an intertest in trying zettelkasten (and my notion growing rather unwieldly), but the $15/m is grinding at me. The idea I'll be locked in at that price forever more doesn't sit well
For me org-roam doesn't scratch the portability itch (easily add notes on my phone etc), but I'm actively looking for alternatives I can make the jump for, and rely on it not disappearing in a few years
I really like the idea of this extension, but as mentioned I'm not sure this existing only in VSCode helps me much at this point.
Props for releasing though, great to see this revolution in note taking apps, and shifts in thought around the optimal way to take them.
I'm the cofounder of a startup[1] working on an app that might scratch your itch.
We built a note-taking system around digital notecards instead of documents, and those cards can be both linked hierarchally with parent/child relationships (and unlike most other platforms a card can have multiple parents) as well as with inline markdown link-style linking that you'll find in many other apps / wikis / tools for thought.
I definitely think the notecard format could be very useful for this use-case, as one card = one argument makes a lot of sense.
I tried Dendron in the past, solid tool. I personally use Obsidian and would recommend it over others like Roam. It is super fast and super responsive.
Advantage that Dendron has is that it is based on VSCode which is fantastic foundation. Pretty much why I love Obsidian, you type fast and can work on ideas quickly.
I personally couldn't care less about graph, it looks pretty but to me not useful at all.
Good thing about tools like this is that you can sync and backup text files.
Bad thing is that having mobile app would be difficult. However, I use IAWriter to write into type of Inbox on my phone and this file is in Obsidian (again same workflow like Dendron)
To me personally, Dendron is too similar to existing one I am using, otherwise solid tool and would recommend to people.
I met Kevin at the YC hackathon last year and first heard about Kevin's ideas around note-taking there. I'm really enjoying Dendron so far.
The biggest thing for me is the lightweight structure- I would have never created a hierarchical structure if I had to create multiple nested folders every time I wanted a new category.
I wish Obsidian supported mobile devices, Github based versioning and cross-device synchronization.That would be the perfect note taking app for me. Is there such alternative? I want the graph view too.
Enjoying Obsidian at the moment, will keep an eye on this one too, but honestly can't justify the switch away (note-taking is such a habit-based, "flow" tool) unless there's a _significant_ advantage to Dendron.
I guess everyone values something different. I am happy to pay for these tools, and even have them closed-source, as long as
(1) it can run locally, "offline", and
(2) the format is open (index-able text, whether one file or many)
at the end of the day, if you have a note taking tool that you like and are using, then my advice is to stick with it. that being said, we'll be launching an obsidian importer next week to make it easy for folks to experiment with dendron if the temptation strikes :)
foam is a note taking tool heavily modeled after roam research and backlinks. the core foam extension mainly focuses on stitching together third party extensions for most of its functionality.
dendron is also, in part, inspired by roam (backlinks, daily journals, etc) but is built around the notion of [hierarchical note taking](https://www.kevinslin.com/notes/3dd58f62-fee5-4f93-b9f1-b0f0...). dendron takes the structure provided by well built hierarchies and combines it with the freedom of roam's backlinks and block references.
while dendron also relies on third party extensions, the majority of functionality is inside the dendron extension. you can refactor notes via regex (dendron will update both backlinks and file names), lookup your notes via their path, apply schemas to categorize your notes, and much more.
Hacker News loves their note taking apps. I've seen at least a dozen apps this year that have solved the exact same problem in just about the exact same ways.
Am I the only one that still uses pen and paper? To me, there's a certain je ne sais quoi about closing my laptop and putting my phone away, grabbing a pen and my notebook, and brainstorming without technology.
If anyone can help. I am looking for note taking application that can fulfill the following requirements:
- Plain-as-in-Plain Text - meaning I don't have to export my notes as JSON or XML or something else. Each note is a single .md or .txt file.
- Full-text search
- No Markup Lock-in - Meaning, for example, that I can use any flavor of Markdown (in my case MultiMarkdown) that I'd like and export/preview/build the file elsewhere.
- Preferably Mac native...or anything not Electron if necessary
- Wikilinks, please
The Archive fills these needs but after looking at their Roadmap, I've realized that I have no intentions of paying for an upgrade when V2 is released and I do not want to risk V1 slowly becoming a mess to operate somewhere down the line if I can find an alternative. The Archive is great because it's simple and it's core but can be extendable if necessary.
Obsidian is nice...but has too much going on for my liking. Same with Org-Roam.
The joplin API works pretty well from my experience, although the note to note linkage is not great.
The export of notes dumps as guid.md file name.
I personally like it because it has the features I want, works well on mobile, local first backed up by sync (you provide the target) and the API isn't hard to use.
Interesting. But, I'm surprised no one mentions the 'originator' of this type of application: TheBrain from TheBrain Technologies LP. Perhaps because this is closed source commercial product?
This product and approach was invented over 20 years ago and has all the features mentioned. One use case, Jerry's brain, has over 500K nodes and is still useful graphically.
Two problems with these types of things is
1. the graph is most useful on large displays. I have not tried the mobile apps. On a large data set I would imagine scrolling and zooming would be needed.
2. Search is still a key feature. Even with fully linked graph structure, finding something would take too long, 'tip of the tongue' recall problem.
[+] [-] _huayra_|5 years ago|reply
I really hope a true VSCode competitor will emerge in the future that is truly open source and not controlled by a company that does not have its users best interests in mind; all this Linux-friendly stuff Microsoft is doing lately is to basically get people into their ecosystem and then slowly push out Linux and other alternatives (e.g. who's using sublime / atom anymore?). There is some pithy name for this strategy that escapes me, but effectively it is the equivalent of dumping in commerce: use one's cash reserves to sell a product at a loss in order to squeeze out competitors, then capitalize on the cornered market (i.e. "All Hail Microsoft!" after trying to squeeze out others).
I really wish the Xi [0] editor gained more traction, though as an Emacs user I'm hoping the speedup with v28 and the GccEmacs [1] go a long way there. I would certainly like more parallelism though, e.g. `dired` mode not pausing the entire editor when moving a large file, and I've never really become fluent in elisp.
[0] https://github.com/xi-editor/xi-editor [1] https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GccEmacs
[+] [-] slightwinder|5 years ago|reply
The reason VS Code is so successful is exactly because it's under control of a company which has it's users best interests in mind. It's just that the users interest are not identical with some users political interest.
A users best interest is that the tool works without pain and solves the task at hand fast. Anything else comes afterwards. And VS Code is seems to be very dedicated to make exactly this possible. They don't compromise with pointless stuff, and focus on satisfying the most customers. And this works very well so far. Better than any open source-project I've seen to be honest.
[+] [-] PeterStuer|5 years ago|reply
Don't get me wrong. VS Code is most certainly a loss leader for the Microsoft ecosystem. This businessmodel for gaining developer mindshare is not new. It was pioneered by the free software ecosystem, but has been the defacto standard for some time now.
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[+] [-] tug0fwar|5 years ago|reply
[1] https://github.com/VSCodium/
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[+] [-] evo_9|5 years ago|reply
It's likely an unpopular choice given it's from 'Big-Co, Inc', etc, but it's hard to beat. My favorite feature that sold me is the ability to tab and instantly create an inline table (with each subsequent tab pressing creating additional columns). It's quite powerful and flexible. You can also add multiple text blocks to a note page allow for extra context to be placed anywhere. This isn't limited to just text, but adding a graphic to an existing text block, again anywhere on the note 'space'
Honestly, it's really quite an impressive note app and I've moved completely off of Bear in favor of it. The syncing is also free, which was something I was paying a yearly sub to Bear for. The cherry on-top is the also free iOS app which works really well too.
That said, I do think there is room for something like Dendron, which is pretty slick and I quite like that it's a VS-Code add-on. I'll def give it a serious look, nice job!
[+] [-] iterating|5 years ago|reply
This is where Dendron shines. Dendron's navigator side panel is clean of clutter and easy to navigate, even when you have hundreds of notes. You can also navigate your notebook by open TODOs, nested tags, saved (regex or non rgex) search filters, or by graph view.
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[+] [-] garettmd|5 years ago|reply
Also, it has quirky, but very annoying behavior, like how it won't save my position on a page after the screen turns off. This makes it challenging to get back to the step I was on in a complicated recipe (what I mostly use OneNote for now).
[+] [-] kevinslin|5 years ago|reply
Let me know if you have any feedback or questions after you start using it.
[+] [-] maxioatic|5 years ago|reply
> Dendron is a highly opinionated note taking tool that focuses on hierarchal note taking. It provides the freedom of Roam’s every note exists everywhere philosophy while layering on top flexible hierarchies to keep track of it all. [0]
Not sure how I feel about that approach. However, it does look pretty polished and I'll likely check it out at some point.
[0] - https://www.dendron.so/notes/683740e3-70ce-4a47-a1f4-1f140e8...
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[+] [-] SamBam|5 years ago|reply
I've found from using Evernote for a decade that I've really focussed on making evergreen notes -- notes that I continue adding to over time. I worry that the Roam-like notebooks instead lead you to making a "Personal Wikipedia" of your knowledge, where many notes are just the stub of an article, because it's so easy to do.
I worry that, if I used this, instead of a 2-3 big pages on Topic X, I'd have 50 little notes on Topic X, which, yes, I can find through backlinks, but I would not have felt like I had synthesized.
Thoughts?
[+] [-] WClayFerguson|5 years ago|reply
Some day there should emerge some kind of de-facto winner in this category, because it's so sad that it's 2020 and there's still not a super wide-spread mass-adoption kind of general purpose app for handling hierarchical data and interacting with it.
When XML was invented I was sure it would change the world (and arguably, enabling RSS/Atom did), but now in 2020 you don't hear much about XML.
All word processors should be hierarchical rather than monolithic (linear), imo, and Quanta endeavors to show one way to do that in a wiki-like app.
[+] [-] ww_wpg|5 years ago|reply
[0] https://quanta.wiki/app?id=5ca14747487e8f0001a3bcff#5ca25b1a...
[+] [-] slightwinder|5 years ago|reply
XML is a data-format, not an enduser-format. It's used everywhere, what is there more to hear about it?
> All word processors should be hierarchical rather than monolithic (linear)
No, they should not, it's just a pain. Word processors have hierarchical view, but enforcing it would be a harmful. In the first place, word processors are not note-systems. It's not their job to manage your files.
[+] [-] Naac|5 years ago|reply
I'm currently using tiddlywiki[2] so that's primarily what I'm comparing it too.
Both tiddlywiki and dendron look very similar, supporting various forms of linking to one another. Dendron seems to have a more complete hierarchical way of combining pages, at least compared to the way that I use tiddlywiki.
Tiddlywiki's advantage is the amount of plugins it has available. I think I also still prefer tiddlywiki because I just have it hosted on a server, so I can access my notes from whatever machine, including my phone. For dendron ( an electron app ) I'm guessing I would have to have some sort of Dropbox/Nextcloud system setup to sync notes between machines. The fact that I'm in my browser all the time and can just open a web page to access tiddlywiki is also preferable. The least amount of friction between a thought in my head to being able to write it down, the better.
I was interested in Dendron because looking at its website, dendron supports a graph visualization of all your notes, like concept mapping[3]. But unfortunately it doesn't look like this concept mapping feature is prioritized, or the main focus of dendron. That's really the main thing I would like to add to tiddlywiki, some sort of functional concept mapping feature. I've tried tiddlymap[4], but its not very well supported.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3io2fHRmZsE
[2] https://tiddlywiki.com/
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concept_map
[4] http://tiddlymap.org/
[+] [-] kevinslin|5 years ago|reply
That being said, Dendron lets you publish your notes as static sites (eg. https://dendron.so is just published using notes) and we'll be expanding this feature to do private hosting of notes with limited editing capabilities later in December
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[+] [-] sammorrowdrums|5 years ago|reply
I thought the point was to store the data, and distribute it in git or something.
[+] [-] nullandvoid|5 years ago|reply
For me org-roam doesn't scratch the portability itch (easily add notes on my phone etc), but I'm actively looking for alternatives I can make the jump for, and rely on it not disappearing in a few years
I really like the idea of this extension, but as mentioned I'm not sure this existing only in VSCode helps me much at this point.
Props for releasing though, great to see this revolution in note taking apps, and shifts in thought around the optimal way to take them.
[+] [-] pknopf|5 years ago|reply
Assertions can have supporting statements (as children), that can be further expanded and evaluated.
This way, I can evaluate and discard branches, distilling an argument to what matters.
Would a tool like this help me?
[+] [-] fastball|5 years ago|reply
We built a note-taking system around digital notecards instead of documents, and those cards can be both linked hierarchally with parent/child relationships (and unlike most other platforms a card can have multiple parents) as well as with inline markdown link-style linking that you'll find in many other apps / wikis / tools for thought.
I definitely think the notecard format could be very useful for this use-case, as one card = one argument makes a lot of sense.
[1] https://supernotes.app
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http://hypernomicon.org/
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Advantage that Dendron has is that it is based on VSCode which is fantastic foundation. Pretty much why I love Obsidian, you type fast and can work on ideas quickly.
I personally couldn't care less about graph, it looks pretty but to me not useful at all.
Good thing about tools like this is that you can sync and backup text files.
Bad thing is that having mobile app would be difficult. However, I use IAWriter to write into type of Inbox on my phone and this file is in Obsidian (again same workflow like Dendron)
To me personally, Dendron is too similar to existing one I am using, otherwise solid tool and would recommend to people.
[+] [-] stevenwliao|5 years ago|reply
The biggest thing for me is the lightweight structure- I would have never created a hierarchical structure if I had to create multiple nested folders every time I wanted a new category.
Hoping for some mobile support in the future.
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[+] [-] kevinslin|5 years ago|reply
We also have an active discord channel with lots of good people: https://discord.gg/AE3NRw9
[+] [-] agambrahma|5 years ago|reply
I guess everyone values something different. I am happy to pay for these tools, and even have them closed-source, as long as
(1) it can run locally, "offline", and (2) the format is open (index-able text, whether one file or many)
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[+] [-] kevinslin|5 years ago|reply
dendron is also, in part, inspired by roam (backlinks, daily journals, etc) but is built around the notion of [hierarchical note taking](https://www.kevinslin.com/notes/3dd58f62-fee5-4f93-b9f1-b0f0...). dendron takes the structure provided by well built hierarchies and combines it with the freedom of roam's backlinks and block references.
while dendron also relies on third party extensions, the majority of functionality is inside the dendron extension. you can refactor notes via regex (dendron will update both backlinks and file names), lookup your notes via their path, apply schemas to categorize your notes, and much more.
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[+] [-] dvt|5 years ago|reply
Am I the only one that still uses pen and paper? To me, there's a certain je ne sais quoi about closing my laptop and putting my phone away, grabbing a pen and my notebook, and brainstorming without technology.
[+] [-] ibn_khaldun|5 years ago|reply
- Plain-as-in-Plain Text - meaning I don't have to export my notes as JSON or XML or something else. Each note is a single .md or .txt file.
- Full-text search
- No Markup Lock-in - Meaning, for example, that I can use any flavor of Markdown (in my case MultiMarkdown) that I'd like and export/preview/build the file elsewhere.
- Preferably Mac native...or anything not Electron if necessary
- Wikilinks, please
The Archive fills these needs but after looking at their Roadmap, I've realized that I have no intentions of paying for an upgrade when V2 is released and I do not want to risk V1 slowly becoming a mess to operate somewhere down the line if I can find an alternative. The Archive is great because it's simple and it's core but can be extendable if necessary.
Obsidian is nice...but has too much going on for my liking. Same with Org-Roam.
I'm really considering Emacs w/ Zetteldeft.
[+] [-] X6S1x6Okd1st|5 years ago|reply
The export of notes dumps as guid.md file name.
I personally like it because it has the features I want, works well on mobile, local first backed up by sync (you provide the target) and the API isn't hard to use.
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[+] [-] brainburp|5 years ago|reply
Two problems with these types of things is 1. the graph is most useful on large displays. I have not tried the mobile apps. On a large data set I would imagine scrolling and zooming would be needed. 2. Search is still a key feature. Even with fully linked graph structure, finding something would take too long, 'tip of the tongue' recall problem.
[+] [-] mwnivek|5 years ago|reply
https://gingkoapp.com/
https://github.com/gingko/client