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geddy | 5 years ago

That study you linked was done in animals, and I have a feeling it was dug up to support the notion that keto is in any way shape or form, good for you.

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codebolt|5 years ago

Based on advice from certain experts like Rhonda Patrick and various anecdotes from others I think the combination of sugar and fat in particular exacerbates the damaging effects of both.

This study seems to focus on one variable, but there may be all sorts of bias in that those who consume a lot of saturated fat also have poor nutrition otherwise and lead unhealthier lives overall.

fsloth|5 years ago

I think it's silly to focus on single variable.

I'm Over 40 and my body is showing it. I've done quite a lot of health research over the past few years. My personal metric at the moment is to lower my cholesterol and have been moderately successful without medication, so I think I'm doing something at least partially right.

I think the beneficial geeky rules of thumbs for healthy living that are simple rather than perfect, are:

1. One needs in ones diet 1.1 Protein 1.2 Fiber 1.3 Carbohydrates 1.4 Fats 1.5 Vitamins

2. Prefer foods with: 2.1 Unsaturated fats like olive oil, salmon, etc 2.2 Fibers

3. Generally avoid food with: 3.1 Fast sugars 3.2 High inflammatory index 3.3 High saturated fat content

4. Don't eat more than you consume.

5. For exercise, as the bare minimum, try to walk at least 8000 steps per day or equivalent. This will statistically reduce mortality considerably.

6. Sleep enough

7. Don't stress about the above rules! Pay attention, but don't judge - yourself or others.

8. Look into other stuff that's probably good for you like stretches, breathing exercises and strength exercises.

These are not hard and fast rules. But things that one can pay attention to, and through self observation perhaps make slow adjustments.

So don't stop eating burgers, but pay attention to the number of calories you eat, and of what the calories are composed of. Eat what you like, but don't delude yourself.

For geeks metrological devices may offer motivation. I have a bracelet that measures my steps and my sleep, and I feel it as a successful facilitation tool. But don't treat the device as a life coach, or the numbers as something that you should strive to optimize.

tonyedgecombe|5 years ago

>I think the combination of sugar and fat

That might just be that together they are particularly palatable. You would have a hard job eating a bowl of sugar or a bowl of cream but mix them together and it's much easier.