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Body found in Canada identified as neo-nazi spam king

117 points| picture | 5 years ago |krebsonsecurity.com

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[+] invalidOrTaken|5 years ago|reply
>The father of the deceased, Hy Greenbaum, has offered a $10,000 reward to any tipster who can help solve his son’s homicide.

My heart goes out to parents who may disagree with their children, but can't help but love them.

[+] centimeter|5 years ago|reply
Hy Greenbaum is almost certainly a Jewish name - morbidly fascinating that his son would have become a Nazi.
[+] aaron695|5 years ago|reply
> My heart goes out to parents who may disagree with their children, but can't help but love them

I don't see anything about a disagreement between father and son.

But I'm disturbed you think it necessary to say a disagreement might affect love. This is not normal. It might happen, but it should not be thought of as ok.

Even if he was violent multiple times against his father and family, which I'm not reading and I don't know why we might think that? I would still think love would be there, depending on the severity. Hurting other family members might destroy that love. But I don't know why we think this might have happened.

[+] colinmhayes|5 years ago|reply
Can't stop laughing at AOL digging up his property as if they'd actually find precious metals there.
[+] 29athrowaway|5 years ago|reply
Just the mental image with AOL people digging for gold earned from spam just cracks me up.
[+] i_love_music|5 years ago|reply
The whole story is bizarre, but that tidbit was just bonkers. How the hell did they convince a judge that it was ok to go wreck this poor woman's house/yard in hope is digging up some hidden precious metals that her son evidently buried there? I'm speechless.
[+] swallace_king|5 years ago|reply
I thought this was going to be Adam Guerbuez, another neo-nazi candadian "spam king" that Facebook bankrupted in Canada a few years ago. That's not all, he also murdered someone outside of a bar in 2000, and is responsible for those old "bum fight" videos from back in the day. Now he's a BTC scammer, of all things.
[+] grawprog|5 years ago|reply
I could understand why a lot of people would want to do something like that to him, he seemed like a real shitbag, but it does make you wonder just who he pissed off bad enough for them to track him down and brutally murder him like that.

I remember back when they first found the body, there was some worry there was a random killer in the area. The squamish highway has a pretty bad reputation for murders as it is. But, this seems like something premeditated.

[+] syllogism|5 years ago|reply
Is there evidence he actually cared about the neo-nazi bit, and it wasn't just another sham identity? The guy sounds absolutely amoral, and neo-nazis seem like they'd be easy marks.
[+] sp332|5 years ago|reply
I don't see how you can be a "sham" neo-nazi. If you're recruiting, encouraging, and otherwise aiding neo-nazis, you're a neo-nazi.
[+] plorg|5 years ago|reply
I'm not surprised that any of these fringe identities would be lucrative for a scam artist, but where is the line on identity if you can take it off and put on something else with such apartment ease?

If nothing else I really feel for his father (mentioned in the article), who despite everything seems to have deeply cared for his son.

[+] cgh|5 years ago|reply
I've actually met this guy in the past, after he moved to BC and reinvented himself. His provided name of "Jesse James" was obviously fake and he was clearly sketchy (he claimed to have a PhD in physics, was the CEO of some AI-related startup, and various other outlandish things, and all that within the first ten minutes of speaking with him) but he seemed friendly enough.

The news of his murder was a pretty big shock locally. Everyone is talking about his youthful neo-Nazi fling but to me the most amazing part of this story is his past as a spammer. I read the book Spam Kings way back when and I clearly remember everyone hating these guys. Then fifteen years later or something, I'm chatting with one of those same guys at some local crag without knowing it. I know it's a cliche, but life is strange.

[+] a1pulley|5 years ago|reply
In hindsight, do you think he was just wearing the identity of a rock climber or do you think he just happened to enjoy climbing? Was he competent? Psyched? I vaguely remember his name, but 2017 was a heads-down work year for me when I didn't climb much—and didn't visit Squamish at all, unfortunately.
[+] Johnyma22|5 years ago|reply
Oh man the caliber of the comments on KOS is way lower than I expected.

How does such a great author get such poor comment quality? It's kinda sad :(

[+] rebuilder|5 years ago|reply
By having a comments section and not having strict moderation, presumably.
[+] theobeers|5 years ago|reply
Hmm, I was getting a 403 error trying to access this page, apparently because I was using Cloudflare’s 1.1.1.1/WARP service on iOS. When I switched to 1.1.1.1 DNS only, the problem went away. Does Krebs block visitors who appear to be using VPNs?
[+] cannedslime|5 years ago|reply
What is up with jews who become nazis? I remember some years ago there was this jewish kid that played both European nationalists and Australian Islamists. I think his name was Joshua Ryne Goldberg or something like that. He wrote for the dailystormer too... Tried to make both sides commit acts of terrorism.

He basically ran every controversial subreddit at the time under his nick "European88".

[+] AntiImperialist|5 years ago|reply

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[+] simias|5 years ago|reply
I'm sometimes guilty of commenting without thoroughly reading the linked articles but in this case a simple glance at the photo in the article would've answered your question.
[+] rsynnott|5 years ago|reply
I mean, if he's not, he's picking a weird flag to pose in front of.
[+] bigtones|5 years ago|reply
Dude had a Hitler mustache, wearing a white pride t-shirt, and is standing next to a Nazi Swastika flag in the pic. That's pretty telling.
[+] DFHippie|5 years ago|reply
Odds are he was neither the Nazi of his Hawke persona nor the progressive vegan of his Jesse James persona but a psychopath who enjoyed messing with people and found claiming these identities useful to that end.
[+] jstarfish|5 years ago|reply
Yeah...this just sounds like recurrent antisocial behavior to me. No commitment to anyone or anything, not even his own family or sense of identity.

I doubt he "enjoyed" messing with others; more like he could not fathom what impact his actions had on them. Narcissists and cult leaders are the ones who "enjoy" messing with others-- and tend to stay in place until the bitter end.

This guy was probably just mentally ill but high-functioning. Despite his egregious behavior, I'd bet he never saw this coming.

[+] SideburnsOfDoom|5 years ago|reply
You're not wrong, it's just that I don't think that any of this is incompatible with actually "being a Nazi", in either the classic Germany 1940s edition, or the modern "alt-right neo" 2020s USA edition. The grift is baked in, and always was.