Quick Google searches debunk most of your claims. A couple of them have been covered extensively. The fact that you still believe them days later highlights your bias, or the bias of your news feeds.
>Quick Google searches debunk most of your claims. A couple of them have been covered extensively. The fact that you still believe them days later highlights your bias, or the bias of your news feeds.
Benford's law is debunked? Could you provide a link disproving the law please?
Voting employees voting debunked? Not at all. It's a real video. People are arguing that they were 'fixing' damaged ballots. Which is allowed by the rules. Except let's rotate back to the observers being placed a football field length away. This is not transparent. Obviously this is not 'debunked' but AT BEST the argument is that it's a completely non-transparent process that places huge doubt on the process.
I even provide the video showing the republicans having been thrown out of the vote counting building in Michigan. The windows were being covered up. You're right, I have not provided any evidence at all showing fraud. Except that's because they were thrown out. Blocking windows and blocking people from video recording the vote from outside is quite shifty. However, there's clearly nothing debunked here. I provided the video that cant be debunked.
Wisconsin hasn't been debunked. Wisconsin has an open observer policy meaning anyone can show up. Any amount of people could show up. They setup covid rules such that they basically couldn't observe by placing them in a room and a livestream. I have provided no evidence of fraud, but that's because the observers were blocked from doing their job.
So again you said most of my claims are debunked but they are inheritantly not debunkable. They aren't even debatable, but they also don't necessarily prove fraud occurred. You assert that it highlights my bias. Here's the even more interesting thing, I'm not American. I'm not in the USA. I have no need for bias. I'm an objective viewer here.
You have projected your own feeling of bias. It sounds like your news has 'debunked' these claims but it absolutely has not. You should take another look at your own echo chamber. Denying reality isn't going to make the issue go away. The perception that the election was stolen is quite clear. It wasn't Russian agents in Michigan cardboarding the windows.
In fact you should see that Michigan video restricting poll watchers from entering that building as election fraud by itself. Poll watchers dont need any nomination from a party. Everyone can be a poll watcher and legally are allowed to go in that building. It was entirely illegal for them to close those doors.
I know zero about Benford's law, there is at least one argument that the available data is not sufficient or does not lead one to believe voter fraud occurred:
I will be watching for more information on this subject.
Poll watchers weren't let in to the Michigan facility because Republicans (and Democrats) had already exceeded the maximum number of allowed poll watchers.
Biden didn't receive 138k votes to Trump's zero. That was a typo which was immediately corrected.
Poll workers do transcribe votes from damaged ballots. One poll worker reads votes from the damaged ballots, another fills in the new ballot. Of this team of two, one is a Democrat, one is a Republican. The videos of this process that some people shared crops out poll watchers.
I agree that if poll watchers were not allowed to adequately perform their functions in any state that is not acceptable. It is not evidence of fraud.
sleepysysadmin|5 years ago
What exactly has been debunked? That the Penn Judge ordered such that observers can up-close view the count? https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pennsylvania-judge-permits-c...
Benford's law is debunked? Could you provide a link disproving the law please?
Voting employees voting debunked? Not at all. It's a real video. People are arguing that they were 'fixing' damaged ballots. Which is allowed by the rules. Except let's rotate back to the observers being placed a football field length away. This is not transparent. Obviously this is not 'debunked' but AT BEST the argument is that it's a completely non-transparent process that places huge doubt on the process.
I even provide the video showing the republicans having been thrown out of the vote counting building in Michigan. The windows were being covered up. You're right, I have not provided any evidence at all showing fraud. Except that's because they were thrown out. Blocking windows and blocking people from video recording the vote from outside is quite shifty. However, there's clearly nothing debunked here. I provided the video that cant be debunked.
Wisconsin hasn't been debunked. Wisconsin has an open observer policy meaning anyone can show up. Any amount of people could show up. They setup covid rules such that they basically couldn't observe by placing them in a room and a livestream. I have provided no evidence of fraud, but that's because the observers were blocked from doing their job.
So again you said most of my claims are debunked but they are inheritantly not debunkable. They aren't even debatable, but they also don't necessarily prove fraud occurred. You assert that it highlights my bias. Here's the even more interesting thing, I'm not American. I'm not in the USA. I have no need for bias. I'm an objective viewer here.
You have projected your own feeling of bias. It sounds like your news has 'debunked' these claims but it absolutely has not. You should take another look at your own echo chamber. Denying reality isn't going to make the issue go away. The perception that the election was stolen is quite clear. It wasn't Russian agents in Michigan cardboarding the windows.
In fact you should see that Michigan video restricting poll watchers from entering that building as election fraud by itself. Poll watchers dont need any nomination from a party. Everyone can be a poll watcher and legally are allowed to go in that building. It was entirely illegal for them to close those doors.
fatheart|5 years ago
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wmebane/inapB.pdf
I will be watching for more information on this subject.
Poll watchers weren't let in to the Michigan facility because Republicans (and Democrats) had already exceeded the maximum number of allowed poll watchers.
Biden didn't receive 138k votes to Trump's zero. That was a typo which was immediately corrected.
Poll workers do transcribe votes from damaged ballots. One poll worker reads votes from the damaged ballots, another fills in the new ballot. Of this team of two, one is a Democrat, one is a Republican. The videos of this process that some people shared crops out poll watchers.
I agree that if poll watchers were not allowed to adequately perform their functions in any state that is not acceptable. It is not evidence of fraud.