Loved Tom's social hack for finding cofounders, from Startups Open Sourced. He also has a really good outlook on the role of design in startups.
Q: So, the best way to get to know somebody is to go drink with them?
A: That is absolutely the best way to really get to know a person and what they really like and are interested in because if they are interested in technology, then they will have no problem geeking out with you about Ruby or Node or something for three hours, over drinks; that’s when you know that you found someone that could be a really successful cofounder. I think there really is something to doing business in bars. In the early days when there were four of us—we had hired Scott Chacon—we would go to this bar called O’Reilly’s, up in North beach. We went there almost every week and that’s where we would talk about what we had done. This is after we had started full time and it was where all the decisions were made. A couple of drinks in, you start to just say what you mean instead of thinking so much about whose feelings you are going to hurt or whatever, you say things very bluntly, like, “I think we should do this, and I think you are wrong for saying we should do it a different way,” and now you can have an honest argument about what needs to get done and what the concerns are about the company or how it’s structured or how the stock is going to be split. All this stuff will come up over drinks and as long as you are not too drunk, it can be helpful.
I've been travelling all over the world for the last year and a couple of beers is the key to socializing everywhere. I'm not really a big fan of alcohol but getting people's defenses down at least a little bit makes all the difference.
When I used to live in SF i went to Tosca in north beach and had endless hours of talks about technology, design, philosophy and of course chicks.
We called the sessions Drink & Think and they are still to this day some of the most interesting discussions I have ever had meeting new people and discussing things I didn't know I didn't know.
It seems that strategy will get you a co-founder that you like. The risk here is that you typically like people you have a lot in common with. When you are looking for a co-founder a complementary skill set is typically more useful than someone that you have a lot in common with.
It's unfortunate most people need drinks to say what they mean. That doesn't have to be the case. For better or worse, my partners tend to be people who need to try hard to not say what they think.
I'll be honest. When I first read this post nearly three years ago, I barely knew what Git was, the stock market was crashing hard every day, hundreds of thousands were being laid off, and turning down that offer seemed pretty foolish. Now I can't live without GitHub.
Honestly, I don't think turning down an offer is ever a real problem. You can always ask for the offer again; does a company as big as Microsoft ever have enough smart programmers? People come and go every day. There is probably room for you somewhere.
A cynical mind might say that a really adventurous life might also expose one to more risk of being young and dying, rather than old. Or other less than pleasant outcomes.
It's worth noting that none of the Ruby guys Tom worked with at Powerset are still working for Microsoft 3 years later. The guys I've spoken with had a miserable time working there and left to work for other startups like Greplin, Bank Simple, and Square.
We invited everyone we knew in the Ruby community. We all attended local Ruby meetups and talked to anyone that would listen. We used it for our own open source projects and invited would-be contributors to join the fun. We used an invite-only model during the private beta to create artificial scarcity and encourage people to invite their friends.
This story is encouraging! I'm soon to graduate college and am figuring out what exactly I want to do next. One of the options is to work part time on my startup, next to another part time job or freelancing. It's a lot easier when you have savings to make such a leap, then again, I live lean and live cheap.
No kidding. Coming from a guy who has never raised a single round of funding and has operated profitably every single month since launching (except for one month where he hired two people), they're doing really, really well.
Very nice read. That also leads me to mention that Github, as good as it is in 'social' coding or whatever that means,
does not fill a gap for a proper resource on how to use Git. Not that it should and it clearly doesn't carry that mandate, but
there is hefty amount of respect to be made for any group that de-mystifies git in all it's glory.
Hell, there are plenty of comments here, on groups and proggit from users that lose their hair over advanced use of git.
In my opinion advanced consulting services and migration planning for currently SVN,CVS engaged companies would be nice.
I think the post was published in 2008 but it was talking about events from a year earlier:
"2008 is a leap year. That means that three hundred and sixty six days ago, almost to the minute, I was sitting alone in a booth at Zeke’s Sports Bar..."
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Q: So, the best way to get to know somebody is to go drink with them?
A: That is absolutely the best way to really get to know a person and what they really like and are interested in because if they are interested in technology, then they will have no problem geeking out with you about Ruby or Node or something for three hours, over drinks; that’s when you know that you found someone that could be a really successful cofounder. I think there really is something to doing business in bars. In the early days when there were four of us—we had hired Scott Chacon—we would go to this bar called O’Reilly’s, up in North beach. We went there almost every week and that’s where we would talk about what we had done. This is after we had started full time and it was where all the decisions were made. A couple of drinks in, you start to just say what you mean instead of thinking so much about whose feelings you are going to hurt or whatever, you say things very bluntly, like, “I think we should do this, and I think you are wrong for saying we should do it a different way,” and now you can have an honest argument about what needs to get done and what the concerns are about the company or how it’s structured or how the stock is going to be split. All this stuff will come up over drinks and as long as you are not too drunk, it can be helpful.
[+] [-] crocowhile|15 years ago|reply
London on Friday afternoon is the biggest hacker fest in the world!
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[+] [-] ThomPete|15 years ago|reply
We called the sessions Drink & Think and they are still to this day some of the most interesting discussions I have ever had meeting new people and discussing things I didn't know I didn't know.
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A great conclusion to a great article. Definitely a motto to live by.
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Hell, there are plenty of comments here, on groups and proggit from users that lose their hair over advanced use of git.
In my opinion advanced consulting services and migration planning for currently SVN,CVS engaged companies would be nice.
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One too many Gs: progit.org
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Great quote and I try to live my life by the same philosophy
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"2008 is a leap year. That means that three hundred and sixty six days ago, almost to the minute, I was sitting alone in a booth at Zeke’s Sports Bar..."
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