Indeed. I am absolutely sure their design process went: Mix a bunch of different stuff, teste it. Feed results of teste evaluation into computer, train ML model to accurately pick out the mixture which was rated highest in evaluation for that sweet sweet ml pr-boost effect.
If that's not the case then I am extremely curious for them to release an actual tech run through of how ML contributed to their process.
This seems the same story as Incredible Burger: take an existing alternative, jiggle the pieces a bit and invest a few million in marketing and celebrity endorsements. A silicon valley high tech story underlying the whole thing...
Combining different ingredients is basic food science and you'll see fantastic things in the ingredient list of most modern industrial foods. No need for a made-up AI or stories about finding a match of 'molecules'.
Happy to see the veggie space grow but this marketing is just outrageous...
P.S.: I've been veggie for more than a decade and Incredible Burger despite all its advertisement tastes rancid and sad compared to many existing alternatives. If you don't like it don't be fooled into thinking that all veggie/vegan stuff tastes bad ;)
I have to agree, as someone who's been veggie their whole life these fake meat burgers are the bane of my culinary existence. Give me a black-bean burger or a sweet potato burger or a lentil burger or a plain old soy burger anyday!
I wonder if your tastes have just changed. I’m not veggie, and I love the impossible and beyond burgers. Easily the best fake-meat I’ve had, and for the cause I think that’s really important. I.e, better for the cause to match taste of carnivores than those who have been veggie for a decade.
Curious what existing meat alternatives you think are good. I’ve always been really disappointed with anything besides like picking tofu in Thai food or paneer in Indian food.
I love the naming. The milk industry has been trying to keep soy (and other) milk producers from using "milk" in their name, arguing it confuses consumers, and that "milk" = cows. Such FUD nonsense. I'd love to see them try this argument with "NotMilk"
I imagine one of these milk-substitute brands will become something like the next Coke: a recognized and widely available brand across the world. Personally I hope it's Oatly, I really liked both their oat milk and their oat yogurt.
[+] [-] nemothekid|5 years ago|reply
PR is really something else.
[+] [-] jVinc|5 years ago|reply
If that's not the case then I am extremely curious for them to release an actual tech run through of how ML contributed to their process.
[+] [-] nelaboras|5 years ago|reply
Combining different ingredients is basic food science and you'll see fantastic things in the ingredient list of most modern industrial foods. No need for a made-up AI or stories about finding a match of 'molecules'.
Happy to see the veggie space grow but this marketing is just outrageous...
P.S.: I've been veggie for more than a decade and Incredible Burger despite all its advertisement tastes rancid and sad compared to many existing alternatives. If you don't like it don't be fooled into thinking that all veggie/vegan stuff tastes bad ;)
[+] [-] snovv_crash|5 years ago|reply
[+] [-] therealdrag0|5 years ago|reply
I wonder if your tastes have just changed. I’m not veggie, and I love the impossible and beyond burgers. Easily the best fake-meat I’ve had, and for the cause I think that’s really important. I.e, better for the cause to match taste of carnivores than those who have been veggie for a decade.
Curious what existing meat alternatives you think are good. I’ve always been really disappointed with anything besides like picking tofu in Thai food or paneer in Indian food.
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[+] [-] LargoLasskhyfv|5 years ago|reply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_analogue