This is very painful for the people who make video's that don't attract enough subscribers to reach the 1k threshold (like makers of incidental How To video's). You can have millions of views, but if you don't have enough subscribers, you won't be able to monetise and Google will profit from your work.
This will push more and more people towards adblockers.
Whether yt pays it's creators or not have no impact on ad blocker usage.
Also the general population do not care about ads. I've asked my SO countless times to install an ad blocker, but she refuses. She just doesn't seem to be annoyed by the frequent irrelevant interruptions.
Could this be something we solve with community actions. find videos that are well made, do get views and ask a community to subscribe so they cross the threshold?
Its late and I'm about 5 whiskeys in so maybe a silly idea but right now I feel I'd be more than happy to hit a few channels and subscribe to help out.
I guess they will always be in favor to the channels that bring the most views/watch ratio. I think this will also do that, it wont hurt the largest creators, but it will definitely hurt the small ones. Sucks very much as it will deprive of the variety of content on YouTube
Also if you seem to be gaining traction, wouldn't you simply be able to buy 1000 subscribers for a very low price? (I'm not saying yt's rules are right, I'm just saying this might be a simple workaround)
just before I saw the first headlines, I was jokingly complaining to a friend that it seemed Youtube was showing more ads then regular commercial TV channels do. Apparently something did change...
Google's corporate code of conduct used to be "Don't Be Evil". After their restructuring under Alphabet that was changed to "Do the Right Thing." You may think these statements are equivalent but we can see it's driving different behavior, i.e. people respond to them differently.
On another note, I used to think YT was great. I was a regular viewer, lots of subscriptions, etc. It was typical that I'd watch YT in lieu of other content. That has changed in the past month or so because the ad frequency has gotten to the point of making the content unwatchable.
Maybe that should be our 2020 Holiday Challenge - take a break from YT for the holidays. If their viewership drops significantly then maybe that'll drive better behavior.
I know it's unpopular to suggest paying for things on the Internet, but YouTube Premium is worth the investment if you're allergic to ads. It removes ads on mobile and Chromecast too (where ad blocking is harder to set up otherwise) and allows you to play videos in the background on mobile (a feature that I use constantly). If you're a heavy YT user like me it's really not that hard to justify the expense.
I'm allergic to signing into any Google property in a web browser. The only thing I use my Google accounts for is email and I don't want everything I do to be associated with one of my Google accounts because then they shove other annoyances in my face.
Even non-Google websites like Medium.com annoy me with pressure to sign in to their site if I'm signed into a Google account. [0]
Serious in sense that it's a place to make money? Probably Zero. If you count Live-Streaming, then 1 or 2 more. If we talk about alternatives to host videos? Probably dozens or more. If we talk about places for "high business" (proper company, not some lone creator in his ikea-flatroom) to make money, even more, but most of them are also specialized. Social Services like Instagram, Twitter, TikTok and even reddit are somewhat of a competition for short clips (<2 min), but making money there is a bit strange I guess.
Youtube at the moment is the single place (for videos) where you get everything, from the high number of potential customers, to proper and easy tooling for managing stuff coupled with a good level of potential income. And as long as Youtube is to big to fail, this will not change.
Funny, today I woke up and first thing install ABP for the first time in my life, because google will not let me fall asleep to soothing documentaries without obnoxious ads rolling every two minutes because their algos figured out im not there to skip them.
Then I see this and im just even more confident in that decision.
Ublock origin is nice that it prevents you from page redirects to known tracking websites. I first found out about that with slickdeals.
The one thing I still haven't figured out how to use with it is the zapper. Adblock plus' "zapper" just worked and always prevented that pop up or whatever from showing. Ublock just stops it from showing again after you do it after the page load. Then it'll pop up again.
have you considered paying for YT premium? Its great for watching with no ads. I started paying once I discovered Event Horizon, What The Math? and Space Time Channels. I then discovered Mixtape Magic for old school mixtapes to listen to while working. All in all, one of the subscriptions that bring the most value.
[+] [-] merricksb|5 years ago|reply
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25149206 (926 points/721 comments)
[+] [-] spiderfarmer|5 years ago|reply
This will push more and more people towards adblockers.
[+] [-] faeyanpiraat|5 years ago|reply
Also the general population do not care about ads. I've asked my SO countless times to install an ad blocker, but she refuses. She just doesn't seem to be annoyed by the frequent irrelevant interruptions.
[+] [-] Gustomaximus|5 years ago|reply
Its late and I'm about 5 whiskeys in so maybe a silly idea but right now I feel I'd be more than happy to hit a few channels and subscribe to help out.
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On another note, I used to think YT was great. I was a regular viewer, lots of subscriptions, etc. It was typical that I'd watch YT in lieu of other content. That has changed in the past month or so because the ad frequency has gotten to the point of making the content unwatchable.
Maybe that should be our 2020 Holiday Challenge - take a break from YT for the holidays. If their viewership drops significantly then maybe that'll drive better behavior.
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[+] [-] wayneftw|5 years ago|reply
Even non-Google websites like Medium.com annoy me with pressure to sign in to their site if I'm signed into a Google account. [0]
[0] https://imgur.com/a/06M9riv
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Youtube at the moment is the single place (for videos) where you get everything, from the high number of potential customers, to proper and easy tooling for managing stuff coupled with a good level of potential income. And as long as Youtube is to big to fail, this will not change.
[+] [-] izacus|5 years ago|reply
The problem? You don't have YouTube to cover your hosting costs.
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Then I see this and im just even more confident in that decision.
[+] [-] SubGenius|5 years ago|reply
https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe
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The one thing I still haven't figured out how to use with it is the zapper. Adblock plus' "zapper" just worked and always prevented that pop up or whatever from showing. Ublock just stops it from showing again after you do it after the page load. Then it'll pop up again.
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