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kanox | 5 years ago

There is no equivalence between advertising companies tracking what you browse and a government's ability to throw you in prison.

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TeMPOraL|5 years ago

Today. Let's remember that this is an artifact of having strong governments and regulations.

There was much less difference between a government and a corporation if you happened to deal with the East India Company, or US worker towns of old.

dragonwriter|5 years ago

The East India Company was a de facto arm of government; chartered as a state-protected monopoly. There’s plenty of examples of things that aren't formally states or formally linked to them taking advantage of weak or absent states to exert extreme power over people's lives (and plenty of examples of systems without a distinction between private power and public authority at all, e.g., feudalism), but the EIC isn't one of them.

nickpp|5 years ago

The fact that you have to go hundreds of years in the past for your examples speaks volumes.

hkt|5 years ago

I hope you're not suggesting the east india company was anything other than a massive mistake..

forest_dweller|5 years ago

There is always someone that takes the most egregious examples they can find and then say "well if don't have strong government this will happen" ignoring all proportion and scale to any of these matters and the current reality we live in.

It is simply a deflection from the central point that frequently the state will involve itself in things that it really shouldn't be involving itself in. This is frequenly because it must justify its ever increasing size. Saying that the state should have well defined responsibilities shouldn't be controversial. What those should be is a different conversation.