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nacnud | 5 years ago

Good question, does this mean my family's holy grail of performant Minecraft on a Pi is coming closer?

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qwerty456127|5 years ago

I actually wish there was a more powerful Raspberry PI.

Whenever you say you want more powerful the answer is the current way it's primary goal is to be affordable and its primary target audience are schools etc.

E.g. The standard version of the Pi 400 with 4 GB covers most (consumer / school children / students) application purposes. 8 GB are rather needed in the area of video editing / prosumer / server, and would bring the price significantly above the „magic“ 100 € limit.[1]

The vendor just doesn't want to acknowledge the real role of Raspberry Pi is not limited to being a cheap tinkerer board anymore, it has became a standard (for an ARM PC and a hackable set-top-box/console in particular) and a vibrant ecosystem has grown around it - there are plenty reasons to still want a Raspberry Pi original (rather than something the competitors offer) when you don't need it to be so cheap (or even so small) but actually need more power, faster IO, more ports, more GPIO pins etc.

[1] https://pi3g.com/2020/11/04/will-the-raspberry-pi-400-be-ava...

rkangel|5 years ago

> The vendor just doesn't want to acknowledge the real role of Raspberry Pi is not limited to being a cheap tinkerer board anymore

The vendor is a charity with a mission that they have chosen [1]. They can target the Pi however they want to meet that mission. The fact that it doesn't happen to do something that you want it for is your problem not theirs.

There has been a virtuous cycle that something originally aimed at education has been of use to so many hackers, resulting in high volumes and all the benefits that brings. But that doesn't mean that they also need to focus on other sectors.

[1] https://www.raspberrypi.org/about/

magicalhippo|5 years ago

For about 2x the price of the Raspberry Pi 4 8GB model, I can buy a significantly more powerful X86 solution, in terms of compute and I/O.

Compared to that, what would make you go for a Pi at that price point?

salawat|5 years ago

Well... No one is stopping you from pulling the Beowulf maneuver. I.e., duct-taping a couple together. Via UART/USB/I2C/Ethernet.

It isn't as sexy or prone to looking cool, but technically it is possible. I'm actually planning on trying to tinker a traditionally networked cluster that I?m going to evolve to an attempt at an SSI'd cluster.

That's really all what most Integrated Circuits are going to mowadays. Just take a few ALU's, clock circuits, register files, Memory, some caches, a few MMU's, connect it all with buses, fab x gang bustahs and you've got a new system. The toughest part seems to be getting someone to be frank with you and just giving you an accurate datasheet/not screwing you with locked down firmware and rent extractiom arramgements.

sitzkrieg|5 years ago

if only there were a bunch of other sbcs that had different performance and price levels available...

oh wait just buy a khadas vim3 or the new tinkerboard etc etc