> The elf binaries ran essentially flawlessly on my linux machine (although my machine was under powered for the game.)
> Sadly we never released the game on Linux to the public.
That's an improvement over not having a Linux port at all, as it reduces the investment needed to publish the game to Linux eventually. Once the Linux gaming market is big enough, studios might consider to release the game.
Having native support for Linux seems very fitting to a cyberpunk game, but given the kind of crazy reactions you get from some people in that community when things a. are not open source and/or b. exhibit the tiniest of flaws, it's probably not worth the bad PR they would generate.
> Sadly we never released the game on Linux to the public.
What was the justification of ignoring Linux gamers, when you already went through all the trouble of creating the Linux version? Are support costs so high that Linux sales won't cover them after that?
I don't get why. Aren't you and CDPR using Vulkan rather than DirectX by now ? If a small studio like Wube can afford to develop for Windows, Linux and even Mac, why can't you??
I was just playing it on a haswell machine running Arch. But I was on stadia so I was cheating :)
That being said I like stadia. No hardware investment, play anywhere. Works on Linux Chromium. No downloads or patches.
I don’t typically revisit games so I’m not really concerned that in 5 years it may go poof.
Why Stadia instead of e.g. Geforce Now? You can play your existing purchased library via other streaming platforms, and you can switch to playing them locally if you ever buy a gaming PC without having to repurchase them. With Stadia you're locked in to having to buy your games again if you ever want to play on a different platform.
(not trying to criticize, just curious about the differences)
Hmpf, play anywhere seems to only apply if you are in one of the supported countries [0]. I was getting my hopes up but it appears Australia is not supported at this point.
I am sure many will applaud this but it encourage developers to not bother with an actual native build as it tells them that Linux users will be happy with "proton compatible". Games don't run as well IME (even ones where they claim it runs as well or better). I've given up with Games on Linux.
The alternative is "games don't run on Linux at all". The Linux desktop market is tiny as is, the alternative isn't developers suddenly investing in native Linux ports. Even the more popular Macs OS gets severely neglected.
I think it's a decent start to get through the chicken and egg problem (there are not enough linux players so devs don't bother and people don't switch completely to linux because there are games they like which don't work) and if proton brings enough people to linux slowly we might get through this hurdle. If let's say 30% of gamers are linux users the devs might care to do a native port even though they don't right now.
I only use linux and mostly only play natively supported games but sometimes also through proton also I think if you play using proton steam reports as a linux user.
To be fair, there's also developers that technically release an actual native linux build with bugs and then offer zero support for it. At least games on Proton still get worked on by the Proton developers.
As rjn said, it is also a way to lure players to Linux. I've personally switched three weeks ago, and I'm not looking back: every game I want to play works, ranging from almost flawlessly to just perfect. All thanks to Proton, and of course the decades-long efforts of Wine.
You should really try again if you haven't tried in the past month or two. Steam recently released proton 5.13 into the list of proton releases, and since then, a great percent of games that didn't work in earlier 5.* releases have started working. Including Doom Eternal and now this game. Guessing they were prepping for this game.
- Worked out of the box. Purchased the game on Steam, and ran it using Proton experimental (a version you can pick via Steam settings > Steam play > Run other titles with: "Proton experimental"). Running with a prior version of Proton throws a Qt error.
- The announcement mentions AMD cards but I have an NVIDIA GPU card and it worked just fine. I used the NVIDIA driver version 455.
- Changing graphics settings or switching windows cause major graphical artifacts, which are fixed restarting the game.
- Noticeable sound glitches sometimes, but the game is playable. Tried adjusting pulseaudio priority, a trick that helps with these kinds of issues sometimes, but it didn't work.
- Performance is more than OK for me, and I am not using 2020 hardware. I wouldn't try running on 4k + high graphic settings unless you have a high-end box.
For those talking about a native port, the drama involving The Witcher 2 native port and the absolute negative reaction from Linux users along with the disappointing progress of Steam Machines had made CDPR hesitant to develop for the platform.
There has been absolutely no word from CDPR as to why they did not port any of their other games. Both commonts in your article are from a developer from the porting company, not CDPR.
Nice work by vkd3d-proton and Mesa developers! It's not perfect yet, but it's a great start. There are some bugs to fix in vkd3d-proton still (various glitches).
And CDPR can release the game for Linux natively, since they already did the heavy lifting of releasing it for Stadia. At the very least they can add the Vulkan renderer to the Windows version.
I've always wondered. Games usually have pretty low kernel access. What doesn anti-cheat do to detect its not running in native Windows, assuming we ignore the outright obvious signs that may be able to be obfuscated
Not quite. I tested this and it crashed about 15 minutes in. Also there are graphical errors like missing faces, no sound, T-posing NPC's, etc. I'm using both the latest stable Proton and Experimental.
Cyberpunk 2077 compiles and runs perfectly fine natively on Debian, but it lacks a renderer (there was OpenGL but it was dropped years ago and Vulkan is a very specific implementation for Stadia only).
Awesome if proton can make something like cyberpunk work on day 1, why not others? Why do they have to pretend theirs is some mythical special sauce unable to work on Linux ?
That said, why don't these mmo games give a Linux mode ? Pubg for example has mobile app, a lite app and a desktop lite app based on mobile. They are the same but they are matched with similar people only. Apply the same here. Give Linux users option to play the game, without the anti cheat and only match with similar Linux users. I get to deal with any potential cheaters
It's a shame they went 1st person. I know that some people have a different opinion (e.g. [1]) but unfortunately, I immediately get motion sickness with any 1st-person game, but curiously not with 3rd person games.
I loved The Witcher, and was really psyched when Cyberpunk 2077 was first announced. Kinda bumped that I won't be able to play it now, but I guess such is life.
[+] [-] dijit|5 years ago|reply
I was part of the efforts of putting The Division 2 on stadia and it really is “just Linux” for the most part.
The elf binaries ran essentially flawlessly on my linux machine (although my machine was under powered for the game.)
Sadly we never released the game on Linux to the public.
[+] [-] est31|5 years ago|reply
> Sadly we never released the game on Linux to the public.
That's an improvement over not having a Linux port at all, as it reduces the investment needed to publish the game to Linux eventually. Once the Linux gaming market is big enough, studios might consider to release the game.
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[+] [-] varispeed|5 years ago|reply
Do you know why? Linux is my primary OS and it always breaks my heart when companies decide to not support it.
[+] [-] shmerl|5 years ago|reply
What was the justification of ignoring Linux gamers, when you already went through all the trouble of creating the Linux version? Are support costs so high that Linux sales won't cover them after that?
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[+] [-] joana035|5 years ago|reply
That is a bummer indeed :/
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[+] [-] flatiron|5 years ago|reply
That being said I like stadia. No hardware investment, play anywhere. Works on Linux Chromium. No downloads or patches. I don’t typically revisit games so I’m not really concerned that in 5 years it may go poof.
[+] [-] p1necone|5 years ago|reply
(not trying to criticize, just curious about the differences)
[+] [-] climb_stealth|5 years ago|reply
[0] https://support.google.com/stadia/answer/9566513?hl=en
> United States, Canada, United Kingdom, France, Italy, Germany, Austria, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Belgium, Ireland, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, Hungary
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[+] [-] albertzeyer|5 years ago|reply
This is the report for Cyberpunk 2077: https://www.protondb.com/app/1091500
When there are bugs, you usually find also corresponding GitHub issues. E.g. here for NVIDIA issues with Cyberpunk 2077: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/4450
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Proton is pretty amazing. Because of diversity in "Linux" (lots of distros to test) having it is better than not.
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- Worked out of the box. Purchased the game on Steam, and ran it using Proton experimental (a version you can pick via Steam settings > Steam play > Run other titles with: "Proton experimental"). Running with a prior version of Proton throws a Qt error.
- The announcement mentions AMD cards but I have an NVIDIA GPU card and it worked just fine. I used the NVIDIA driver version 455.
- Changing graphics settings or switching windows cause major graphical artifacts, which are fixed restarting the game.
- Noticeable sound glitches sometimes, but the game is playable. Tried adjusting pulseaudio priority, a trick that helps with these kinds of issues sometimes, but it didn't work.
- Performance is more than OK for me, and I am not using 2020 hardware. I wouldn't try running on 4k + high graphic settings unless you have a high-end box.
- During these 3 hours, the game crashed twice.
[+] [-] ulzeraj|5 years ago|reply
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/the-witcher-3-didnt-c...
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[+] [-] 29athrowaway|5 years ago|reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBH0iY-Jx6U
According to the video description the low framerate is due to the streamer OBS setup rather than game performance.
Some people report that the game works better with the 455 version of the NVIDIA driver.
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[+] [-] shmerl|5 years ago|reply
And CDPR can release the game for Linux natively, since they already did the heavy lifting of releasing it for Stadia. At the very least they can add the Vulkan renderer to the Windows version.
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Ditto for UWP. Seems destined to stay Win10 Only
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That said, why don't these mmo games give a Linux mode ? Pubg for example has mobile app, a lite app and a desktop lite app based on mobile. They are the same but they are matched with similar people only. Apply the same here. Give Linux users option to play the game, without the anti cheat and only match with similar Linux users. I get to deal with any potential cheaters
[+] [-] kleiba|5 years ago|reply
I loved The Witcher, and was really psyched when Cyberpunk 2077 was first announced. Kinda bumped that I won't be able to play it now, but I guess such is life.
[1] https://www.thegamer.com/cyberpunk-2077-first-person-shooter...