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azuriten | 5 years ago

I don't think I've ever come across any legal document/lawsuit or otherwise, that was formatted in a way that made it easy to read.

I know it's on purpose like with Privacy Policies/Terms of Service but I really want to read them and know what I'm getting myself into. It's just that they do such a good job of obfuscating everything with legalese. At least with Terms of Service, there's a handy extension called "Terms of Service, Didn't Read". https://tosdr.org/

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curiousllama|5 years ago

Legalese is a technical language. As far as I’m concerned, it’s as close to plain English as SQL: close at first glance, but actully quite distinct.

thechao|5 years ago

I have a long-abiding interest in linguistics, and formal training in programming language theory. English legalese is my favorite pseudo-language. It's also the first pseudo-language I remember learning about, from my uncle. My uncle is a very accomplished attorney (up to the Supreme Court) and his comment was, to paraphrase: "legal texts are usually very clear once you understand them; it is the discovery of facts, and the application of the text to facts that are the domain of lawyers and judges".

azuriten|5 years ago

That's fair for law documents; in the same way I'd expect your peers to understand your SQL.

I just wish privacy policies, which are supposed to be for consumers, were written in the plain English.

kemitchell|5 years ago

It's just a dialect with some jargon. Still English, with all its chaos, at its core.

stordoff|5 years ago

I've seen some miserable formatting in older contracts. I was doubling-checking the documents for a house sale a few years ago, and came across a sentence that was over half a page long without _any_ punctuation. Even though I have a law degree, it took me the best part of half an hour to be 100% confident of the intended meaning and that I hadn't overlooked something.