[turtles_]

Agreed, the slowness is especially painful on mobile, which is the exact opposite of what you need from a note taking tool. I use other tools on mobile and copy to notion later which is exactly as convenient as it sounds.

I do agree with the thrust of the article too, although I don't find any one UX issue (beyond slowness) a deal-breaker, but together they're collectively a pretty frustrating experience.

[jitl]

(I work at Notion)

The mobile situation was much worse a year ago. We made big start time improvements by removing React Native and rebuilding our caching layer, but we still have a long way to go to beat Apple Notes. Using the Notion widget on iOS can really help with quick access for grocery lists.

On Android devices the situation is still not usable.

[chrisfosterelli]

In fairness, the work on the mobile front has shown a lot and I appreciate that! The android app used to take so long to load (and half the time it would just sit in a permanent loading state) that I flat out didn't use it. Lately it's improved a lot and is 'good enough' for my use case. The phone, at it's core, isn't really the tool I want to use for any long-form writing but it's totally sufficient for referring to documents now.

My biggest "speed frustration" right now is opening a new window in the Desktop app. Searching + navigating to a page within an existing window has gotten to be super speedy, but searching and cmd+enter to open in a new window still has quite some lag to it.

[benlc]

I appreciate the honesty with the situation on Android. Not usable is how I would describe it. Really looking forward to this getting addressed, keep it up

[trinix912]

Yeah, it's really slow on the mobile. I rarely ever use Notion for quick notes because it just takes so long to load.