[gerhardlazu]

K8S is an API that the majority is agreeing on, which is rare. There is a lot of amazing tooling, a staggering amount of ongoing innovation, all built on solid concepts: declarative models, emitted metrics (the /proc equivalent, but with larger scope) and versioned infrastructure as data (a.k.a. GitOps).

For someone that is known as the King of Bash (self-proclaimed) - https://speakerdeck.com/gerhardlazu/how-to-write-good-bash-c... - and after a decade of Puppet, Chef, Ansible and oh wow that sweet bash https://github.com/gerhard/deliver - even if all my workstations and work servers (yup, all running k3s) are provisioned with Make (bash++), I still think that K8S is the better approach to running production infrastructure. The advantage to using simple and well-defined components (e.g. external-dns, ingress-nginx, prometheus-operator etc.) that adhere to a universal API, and are maintained by many smart people all around the world, is a better proposition than scripting in my opinion.

At the end of the day, I'm in it for the shared mindset, great conversations and a genuine desire to do better, which I have not seen before K8S & the wider CNCF. I will go on a limb here and assume that I love scripting just as much as you do, but go beyond this aspect and you will discover that it's more to it than "thin install scripts that deploy containers" (which are not just glorified jails or unikernels).

[ClumsyPilot]

I thi k you've hit your head on the nail - the point is not just the kubernetes, it's that you can build standard infrastructure on top. Any software can be (in theory) setup with a helm script, configured in a standard way through YAML configmaps rather than some esoteric configfiles or scripts which are diffetent for every piece of software