[Raphmedia]

On the opposite, I'd say it's a great way to destroy your sleep routine and habits. As a rule of thumb, your bed should be dedicated to sleep and cuddles with your significant other.

"This study indicates that the use of computers and mobile telephones in the bedroom are related to poor sleep habits" https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2869...

"Computer use, TV viewing, and the presence of media in children's bedrooms may reduce sleep duration, and delay bedtimes." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23886318/

[gopalv]

> As a rule of thumb, your bed should be dedicated to sleep

CGP Grey had a pretty good video about living in the lockdown titled "Spaceship you".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snAhsXyO3Ck

I'd say that a lot of work that isn't really work can be done from bed, but it does mess up your training for "bed == sleep".

I used to work from bed before 2020, but the lockdown has made the "walk downstairs to work, grab a coffee along the way" into a natural thing rather than putting a number of other high attention activities (shaving, driving) between being awake-enough to sitting at my desk.

[dumbfoundded]

Solution: two beds. A work bed and a sleep bed.

[st1x7]

This is also #1 in Grey's "7 Ways to Maximize Misery" Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO1mTELoj6o

[kaybe]

Oohh look at these people with more than one room!

(Ok it's valid for those.. but I'm still feeling a bit salty.)

[reaperducer]

Oohh look at these people with more than one room!

I feel ya.

Back when I was running a one-man startup, I had myself, my wife, and a cat in 450 square feet. Except when I was out gladhanding potential clients, I worked from my bed.

At least back then, I could decamp for Starbucks if I got the crazies. But today's studio apartment dwellers are really screwed. Especially if you live somewhere hot, somewhere cold, or a city that removed all of the public benches to "combat" homelessness.

[KMag]

My wife and I lived and worked the first two weeks of December in precautionary quarantine, unable to leave an 86 square foot area, along with our luggage from a 1 month trip. I was within a couple of inches of being able to touch opposite walls (the narrow way) with my finger tips. Hong Kong changed the rules from quarantine-at-home to hotel quarantine while we were out. (We booked a place 2.25x as big, but had a problem with our booking 6 hours before check-in and had to find another booking last-minute.)

I thought I might go stir crazy or have elevated levels of conflict with my wife, but it worked out okay. On the other hand, I can understand why the Council of Europe deems 8 sq. m. (86 sq. ft.) the minimum prison cell size for two prisoners.

[goblin89]

A recent problem for me: I have only one room to myself, and prefer to keep work out of it. I am used to working outside from cafes, esp. coffeeshops, rotating my surroundings little by little. As of late, though, all relevant establishments are shut down in the vicinity, which disrupts both my work and sleep schedule.

Of course, I understand the need for such measures. Hopefully I’ll manage to continue consulting through this without losing a customer.

[Raphmedia]

I believe that even working on a small desk next to your bed would be better than working directly from the bed.

[ineedasername]

Oh, so you have 1 room? Must be nice. I had 3 walls and a plastic tarp I time shares with a neighbor as a shower curtain, and had to tap out tcp-ip on an old telegraph machine. Got quit good, tapped out about 0.3 kb/m (kilobits per minute)

[themodelplumber]

Nitpick: "are related"..."may reduce"...these are links, not causation.

I tested this myself and found A) my sleep did not get any worse when I worked from bed and B) if anything, it got better, especially during times of illness, because I was able to get some important things done at the higher-energy highs and this in turn helped me get better sleep later.

IMO the bed and laying down in general is a great place to do mental activities including work tasks. I continue to get great results from planning (incl. pseudocoding) while laying down.

Anecdata, but I'm noticing that a lot of people aren't testing this themselves, just trusting somebody else's bell curve, along which they may actually plot at any given point.

[echlebek]

It's also a great way to destroy your neck and back. If you thought you had problems with ergonomics at your desk, it will be way worse typing away in a bed.

[chasd00]

yeah I can't imagine 8 hrs of coding from a bed. i have bad posture and even I know that would be bad news.

[mhh__]

What if my significant other is a copy of Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler?

[jedimastert]

We can't change who or how we love

[slowmovintarget]

The gravitational time dilation from proximity to the book does not work in your favor, better to leave it on the shelf while you sleep.

[andybak]

I have a perfectly good sleep routine. It's just that it involves a laptop, a mobile phone, a tablet and occasionally a VR headset.

[jjice]

When I was in middle school (early 2010s), I can't tell you how much time I spent on social media at night on my phone in bed. I swear I must've gotten 4-5 hours of sleep on average. Somewhere around my senior year of high school I started placing my phone across the room instead of lying in bed with it. Who would have guess that my sleep improved drastically. I never go to bed with technology.

[musicale]

> As a rule of thumb, your bed should be dedicated to sleep and cuddles with your significant other.

Sounds like the first sentence of the article:

> For years, sleep experts have held one piece of common wisdom above all else: that devices have no place in the bedroom.

[axguscbklp]

I've been using computers in bed for many years and as far as I can tell, I have no problems whatsoever with sleeping. Sometimes I stay up late surfing the web and then don't get enough sleep because I have to wake up the next morning to do some bullshit, but I'd do the same thing if I was sitting in a chair - I don't surf the the web at night because my computer devices tempt me into doing it, I do it because it's fun.

[hrktb]

That's addressed in the article:

> A primary argument against using devices in bed is that it can further erode the boundaries between work and home, and disrupt your sleep cycle.

Basically the adjustment is to rebuild routines and habits surrounding the new use cycle of the bed.

So, it's not trivial, but not a biological limitation nor something that can't be managed.

[devwastaken]

Having a seperate office for work helps significantly in seperating your habits. I would imagine a bed office might do the same, though obviously having health repercussions.