In this case I have to disagree. I've been using the web version of outlook for at least 8 months now and it is so much better than the rusty windows application.
At least for the Mac client, I think the native app, as slow as it is (possibly made worse due to corporate spyware), is better than OWA for several use cases:
1) searching mails is much faster locally
2) OWA zoom plugin requires re-auth every time SSO times out
3) most operations take 1-2 more clicks on OWA (marking meetings pub/priv, editing a meeting, etc).
On the other hand I've not had plugins working on my native Outlook for several months...
I went through a similar change then found the Mac Outlook client and have been using it for months. I had forgotten how great a stand-alone email app is.
I had hated Windows outlook for so long, I forgot that client apps can be good.
Here’s what I like:
1)
cmd+tab for quick switching between email and other stuff
2)
faster search using local storage (although I think this could be done in browser)
3)
Persistent login not affected by browser state/cookie/whatnot
4)
Keyboard shortcuts not mixed into browser shortcuts
5) speed
I think 4-5 could theoretically be fixed eventually in a browser app. But every single native wrapper over browser has had so much bloat that I suspect it won’t happen.
I also really like the native Mac mail app, but can’t use it with some email accounts due to security settings.
I don't question that their web-apps are good. I also didn't imply the native applications were any good.
But there is absolutely no reason for a mail client or calendar to use gigabytes of RAM and have significant impact on battery life. Which is bound to happen if you bundle Chromium et al. and run the webapps in it.
Totally agree. And also, chances are it won't be Electron, at least on Windows. These guys literally made the OS, they know how to use a native webview.
I have never liked Windows embedded webviews and don’t think they actually know how to use them well. They’ve always seemed like suckier interfaces than their native interfaces. I think their new control panel stuff is web controls and seem clunkier and slower than the old windows control pane widgets.
r00fus|5 years ago
1) searching mails is much faster locally
2) OWA zoom plugin requires re-auth every time SSO times out
3) most operations take 1-2 more clicks on OWA (marking meetings pub/priv, editing a meeting, etc).
On the other hand I've not had plugins working on my native Outlook for several months...
prepend|5 years ago
I had hated Windows outlook for so long, I forgot that client apps can be good.
Here’s what I like: 1) cmd+tab for quick switching between email and other stuff 2) faster search using local storage (although I think this could be done in browser) 3) Persistent login not affected by browser state/cookie/whatnot 4) Keyboard shortcuts not mixed into browser shortcuts 5) speed
I think 4-5 could theoretically be fixed eventually in a browser app. But every single native wrapper over browser has had so much bloat that I suspect it won’t happen.
I also really like the native Mac mail app, but can’t use it with some email accounts due to security settings.
dotdi|5 years ago
But there is absolutely no reason for a mail client or calendar to use gigabytes of RAM and have significant impact on battery life. Which is bound to happen if you bundle Chromium et al. and run the webapps in it.
ripley12|5 years ago
"In the future, the Evergreen WebView2 Runtime plans to ship with future releases of Windows." https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webview2/
llimos|5 years ago
prepend|5 years ago
I have never liked Windows embedded webviews and don’t think they actually know how to use them well. They’ve always seemed like suckier interfaces than their native interfaces. I think their new control panel stuff is web controls and seem clunkier and slower than the old windows control pane widgets.