As a US native who otherwise mostly abstains from sugary processed foods, big-brand peanut butter is one part of my country's food culture that I absolutely cannot shake. I don't eat fast food or drink soda, but I must have a jar of Jif around at all times. I have tried every type of organic peanut butter and found them all more or less vile, mostly due to the oiliness but there's also usually something flat & colorless about the flavor -- not just missing sweetness but something else. On the other hand the less adulterated alternatives do taste a lot more like actual peanuts, which makes me dread to know what it is that I'm missing.
You're still addicted or accustomed to a high level of sugar. It takes time for your body to adjust to lower sugar intake but until you do, healthy alternatives to sugar-laden (or salt-laden) foods will not "taste good" for you.
Also, you probably just need to try more alternative peanut butter. It took me a few tries to find something I liked.
It took me months of living with someone eating peanut-only pb to get used to it, at some point I stopped thinking about how gross it was, and then I tried ye olde sugar pb again after a year and almost gagged. You totally can get used to it.
Some quality of life tricks to make it easier:
buy multiple jars and store them upside down so gravity can help you start mixing
mix initially (if you're able) by rapidly rotating the jar in your hand (twisting your forearm), this will get you 90% of the way
finish off the mix with a knife
keep the well mixed open jars in the fridge
Considering most of my peanut butter consumption comes in the form of PB&J, I find that the jelly/jam provides more than enough sugar and I don't miss it at all in the peanut butter. Only downside for me is mixing the natural stuff, it can be quite a workout. What I discovered recently is storing your next jar upside-down for a week or so on the shelf will make it much easier when doing the initial mixing since the oil will try to float up through the whole jar, so it kind of softens the stuff on the bottom. Once mixed, put it in the fridge and it will stay mixed.
Jif uses molasses where as most peanut butters just have plain sugar. I suspect this is primary difference in flavor.
The creamy solid frosting like texture of peanut butters like Skippy and Jif comes from the high content of saturated fats, which are more solid and shelf stable at room temperature. Traditionally they use hydrogenated vegetable oils to achieve this. The newer "natural" versions just use palm oil instead, which is naturally higher in saturated fats.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the type of peanuts used are unique to each company. Many of theses mega corporations breed their own specific cultivar of produce for their own use. Examples of this is (Nestle) Libby's pumpkin and Lays potatoes.
I got hooked on peanut butter during a 6 month stay in the US and have also noticed a lot of variety in the products available here (Denmark). I really dislike most of the products, but have found a discount brand that is now my favorite.
All of them are 99% peanuts, so I also wonder where the variety in taste comes from. My own theory is that it is a combination of the following: 1. How much the peanuts are roasted. 2. How much of the peanut ends up in the product. Some have a strong bitter taste that I suspect is from skins that haven't been properly separated from the peanuts. 3. Emulsifiers. 4. Oils and 5. Sugars.
I've found the Whole Foods store-brand smooth peanut butter is a good happy medium between Jif and the organic stuff. It stays emulsified a lot longer than others, but has more roasty peanut flavor (and less sugar) than the cheap stuff.
Fun fact: they remove the little nub in the middle of the peanut (called the "heart") before making peanut butter. Apparently the heart is more bitter than the two halves.
Observed Fact: If you make butter in blender from Lidl Salted Peanuts it is (very) good only for a day or two, thereafter it tastes little bitter. But you can compensate by adding raisins to the blend.
Pet Theory: The reason peanut allergies are more prevalent in the US as opposed to other countries that consume peanuts is a difference in the way the body processes peanut butter as opposed to regular peanuts.
No I think it's because up until recently, American parents were told to avoid giving young kids peanuts or peanut butter.
Israel has very low rates of peanut allergies and peanut butter is the main ingredient in a popular snack:
Peanut snacks called Bamba, which are made of peanut butter and corn, are wildly popular in Israel, where parents give them to their kids when they're very young. That's very different from what parents do in Britain and the United States, where fears about food allergies have prompted many parents to keep their children away from peanuts, even though the American Academy of Pediatrics revised a recommendation to do so in 2008.
Hmm, interesting theory, what would the grinding change about the peanuts?
My daughter ate PB&Js when she was little but developed a peanut allergy around 3 or 4. She also has tree-nut allergies that are more severe than her peanut allergy, though, so it's hard to say how that's all connected.
I stopped buying peanut butter when I realized how quickly I was finishing the pots, usually eaten straight from the pot with a spoon. Though at least those that I can find here in France usually don't contain added sugar.
My favorite childhood breakfast was peanut butter on toasted Wonder Bread. This was probably about as bad as 1960s processed food got, Velveeta apart. But it sure tasted good.
Is it me or was that really weird? There were 2 bylines in what seemed like a single article. I understand why the bit about Carver was there - honestly if you had asked me I would have said he invented it; that he didn't was the most surprising thing in it.
mesofile|5 years ago
josefresco|5 years ago
Also, you probably just need to try more alternative peanut butter. It took me a few tries to find something I liked.
17a9f4a4f4e5b3f|5 years ago
Some quality of life tricks to make it easier:
seiferteric|5 years ago
amelius|5 years ago
https://www.wwf.org.uk/updates/8-things-know-about-palm-oil
GloriousKoji|5 years ago
The creamy solid frosting like texture of peanut butters like Skippy and Jif comes from the high content of saturated fats, which are more solid and shelf stable at room temperature. Traditionally they use hydrogenated vegetable oils to achieve this. The newer "natural" versions just use palm oil instead, which is naturally higher in saturated fats.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the type of peanuts used are unique to each company. Many of theses mega corporations breed their own specific cultivar of produce for their own use. Examples of this is (Nestle) Libby's pumpkin and Lays potatoes.
ulrikrasmussen|5 years ago
All of them are 99% peanuts, so I also wonder where the variety in taste comes from. My own theory is that it is a combination of the following: 1. How much the peanuts are roasted. 2. How much of the peanut ends up in the product. Some have a strong bitter taste that I suspect is from skins that haven't been properly separated from the peanuts. 3. Emulsifiers. 4. Oils and 5. Sugars.
fingerlocks|5 years ago
Have you tried making your own and adding a sweetner? Easily made with a food processor.
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m463|5 years ago
- hydrogenated: oil doesn't separate, at the expense of your health
- sugar - on the Dr Rhonda Patrick episode of Joe Rogan, she said sugar+fat is really bad for you
- salt
That said, I agree with you on the organic stuff. You either get an oily mess or cement.
jasonv|5 years ago
I carried peanut butter with me on long trips to Europe. Never found anything that satisfied my homegrown PB yearnings.
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gnicholas|5 years ago
https://youtu.be/4iUduCtx7cA?t=96
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exhilaration|5 years ago
Israel has very low rates of peanut allergies and peanut butter is the main ingredient in a popular snack:
Peanut snacks called Bamba, which are made of peanut butter and corn, are wildly popular in Israel, where parents give them to their kids when they're very young. That's very different from what parents do in Britain and the United States, where fears about food allergies have prompted many parents to keep their children away from peanuts, even though the American Academy of Pediatrics revised a recommendation to do so in 2008.
- https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/02/23/388450621/fe...
zwieback|5 years ago
My daughter ate PB&Js when she was little but developed a peanut allergy around 3 or 4. She also has tree-nut allergies that are more severe than her peanut allergy, though, so it's hard to say how that's all connected.
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