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1000units | 5 years ago

My only advice to you is never try this schtick in a veteran's face. I'm sure you wouldn't, though.

You don't deserve their sacrifices.

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tehwebguy|5 years ago

It’s not a schtick. This woman was apparently sucked into Qanon, a cult that targets soldiers & veterans and apparently went from someone who spent more than a decade respecting a strict chain of command in the air force to breaking into the nation’s capitol.

While climbing through a window that had the glass smashed out she was shot. Shooting an intruder is like the most protected type of self defense there is, so it’s to be expected when breaking into any building, no? So what happened to make her think this wouldn’t get her killed?

That doesn’t make it any less of a tragedy, even more so. Someone that served honorably shouldn’t be left alone to get sucked into all of this.

That said, in the video I can’t hear anyone issue a verbal command such as “Get back or we’ll shoot!” or anything like that. There should have been de-escalation at this point IMO. There were other ways to deal with this aside from shooting her.

(This is a problem with probably every law enforcement agency in the country, a very recent public example is the Breonna Taylor case where police chose one of the most dangerous possible ways to serve a warrant and created a deadly situation where there was none before)

johnchristopher|5 years ago

> That said, in the video I can’t hear anyone issue a verbal command such as “Get back or we’ll shoot!” or anything like that.

Reminder that the rules of engagement for the US army are way more rigorous than those of the police forces and engagements are scrutinized more thoroughly. There should have been warnings until there was no other way to keep the protesters out of the perimeter.

Now that I think about that woman's profile: could it be that this veteran, because of her training, was expecting to hear warnings, didn't and so thought it was safe to keep moving forward ? We'll never know. I have seen the scene and there are other elements I can't explain. We'll never know the whole truth.

It's so sad that people who served their country for years get swallowed in this.

1000units|5 years ago

It's absurd to intimate the grievances people have surrounding the 2020 election are cult conspiracies. I have enough reasons to dislike Trump, and I'll tell you this election was an absolute disaster. It's obvious to any neutral party.