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rohan1024 | 5 years ago

How can both Google and Apple cannot have a single rival platform against Facebook? We do have competitors like Twitter, Telegram, Signal but none of them are from Google or Apple. If we had we could have kept Facebook in check.

Have they given up on network effect of Facebook's platforms? If they can't solve network effect problem then I wonder how much hope there is for apps like Matrix or Signal.

P.s. We do have YouTube from Google but that's an entirely different story.

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bootlooped|5 years ago

It's a moderation nightmare. Facebook is a toxic name to many people. If I were Tim Cook I would leave social networks well alone to keep the Apple brand clean, if for no other reason.

I don't think Google+ ever got to the scale where that was an issue.

zdkl|5 years ago

They only have to worry about moderation if they host anything. They can keep Apple clean of social networks while endorsing and supporting an open protocol or format for fetching/presentation into a thin client (something like ActivityPub/ActivityStreams, to pick an existing implementation that could make sense to adopt/adapt). I don't know, I think that'd be a very "Apple" thing to do with integrations into the rest of their client side ecosystem.

Nkuna|5 years ago

Remember Google Plus? They tried but were ultimately found wanting.

Apple was focused on hardware. Their services play is only recent and my best guess is if they ever considered social, they rightfully saw how toxic it is and decided it wasn't worth the effort/risk of tarnishing their brand. Not that I think they'd have a compelling product. Personally, Apple's web products are average at best. See their stock apps.