Completely. At this point its obvious there was collusion with elements of law enforcement. The bigger issue is that the FBI and DOJ have known for a while that many local law enforcement departments has been ideologically compromised by Right Extremism and doing nothing about it[0]
A while ago I got into watching first amendment auditors on YouTube, and getting riled up about police lack of regard for individual rights.
Then the feed gave me a video from DonutOperator, a former police officer who breaks down police shooting videos to explain why they do what they do by training (and when they break their own rules).
Now I kind of see both sides, still some bad cops, but also a lot of negative police interactions driven by massive levels of criminalizing consensual activities requiring beat cops to serve as a morality police.
In the end, if you spend your day ordering people to stop “bad” activities, and occasionally the worst of them physically force a violent confrontation, you start to view anyone similar to them as negative stereotypes and you begin to desire even more law and order from your leaders.
The US has a very difficult to problem to solve within the ranks of its police. They've become militarized to an extreme degree, which is in turn either moving their rank-and-file more to the right, or attracting those who are already there, or both. The NYPD, as an example, have had multiple instances of openly supporting Trump while on duty [0] and just yesterday, I think it was the head of Chicago police union severely downplayed the Capitol riot and even openly sympathized with them in the media [1]. Add on top of that the images of the Capitol police either taking selfies with the rioters or moving the gates out of the way to let them in, and yeah, you've got a problem.
I hopefully don't need to further elucidate why that polarization is a very bad thing. It amazes me that so many of my friends -- I'm white, middle-class, from the Midwest -- do not understand why so many fellow citizens are afraid of the cops and feel like there are two systems in place.
I have no idea why this is being downvoted, other than potentially because people don't want to hear it, admit it, or listen to minorities who have talked it ad infinitum.
His interview was apparently before the DC officer succumbed to his injuries, otherwise he would have used a different word dance to try to explain why this was different than anarchists rioting at BLM protests.
Reminds me of the reluctance in 2008 of the healthier banks to accept capital injections they didn't need to serve as cover for the banks that did, sort of. On top of concern for appearances of not needing it, one reason that may have been argued was that they would presumably be pressured by the feds along populist lines, like bonuses. Not the best comparison.
The Capitol Police report to Nancy Pelosi, I wonder if she was told about the federal intel that rioters were planning to "storm" the Capitol (in reality they more just waltzed in).
Very poor read on the room from where I'm standing, people are complaining precisely that the responses weren't symmetrical, which would be the definition of white privledge in this country.
[+] [-] e40|5 years ago|reply
[+] [-] imbnwa|5 years ago|reply
[0]https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/hidd...
[+] [-] valuearb|5 years ago|reply
Then the feed gave me a video from DonutOperator, a former police officer who breaks down police shooting videos to explain why they do what they do by training (and when they break their own rules).
Now I kind of see both sides, still some bad cops, but also a lot of negative police interactions driven by massive levels of criminalizing consensual activities requiring beat cops to serve as a morality police.
In the end, if you spend your day ordering people to stop “bad” activities, and occasionally the worst of them physically force a violent confrontation, you start to view anyone similar to them as negative stereotypes and you begin to desire even more law and order from your leaders.
[+] [-] krcz|5 years ago|reply
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/capitol-police-opened-gate...
https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jan/07/ask-politifac...
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[+] [-] exogeny|5 years ago|reply
I hopefully don't need to further elucidate why that polarization is a very bad thing. It amazes me that so many of my friends -- I'm white, middle-class, from the Midwest -- do not understand why so many fellow citizens are afraid of the cops and feel like there are two systems in place.
[0] https://www.newsweek.com/nypd-officer-trump-2020-suspended-j...
[1] https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/chicago-police-union-bos...
[+] [-] dehrmann|5 years ago|reply
I'm not sure if I buy that this moves them to the right. It might make them more authoritarian, but that's separate from left/right politics.
[+] [-] exogeny|5 years ago|reply
This is a great read on subject [0].
[0] https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/hidd...
[+] [-] jonny_eh|5 years ago|reply
This isn't polarization, it's radicalization.
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[+] [-] hobs|5 years ago|reply
This whataboutism meme needs to stop.