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disown | 5 years ago

> As an EFF member I think they made the right call here.

They didn't. They chickened out. The ACLU was more vocal in its opposition to censorship. That should show how cowardly the EFF is being right now.

You falsely made it seem like EFF only deals with or is concerned with government "suppression". That isn't true. Most of EFF dealings is with corporate "suppression".

Under normal circumstances, EFF would have been far more vocal. But since they are extremely biased in this case, they chose to be anti-free speech.

"The EFF was active in the United States presidential election 2016 because of online phishing related to the controversy over fabrication of election results. J. Alex Halderman, a computer security professor at the University of Michigan, wrote an article that was published in Medium in 2016 stating he thought it was advisable to have a recount on some of the election results from states like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Frontier_Foundation

Don't you think EFF's belief in 2016 election fraud had anything to do with their lukewarm defense of Trump's free speech here?

They have a long history of questioning voting results, but only when republicans win...

"The EFF has long been an advocate of paper audit trails for voting machines and testified in support of them after the United States presidential election 2004."

I generally think EFF is a worthy enterprise, but it's obvious political bias is the reason for their pathetic "support" for free speech here.

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colanderman|5 years ago

No, meaning, if they argued in favor of Parler, they'd have lost my support.

My principles don't include "force tech companies to host content for terrorists trying to violently overthrow a democracy".

(ACLU, on the other hand, I expect to take the free-speech-absolutist stance...)

julianmarq|5 years ago

> they'd have lost my support.

The implication being that everything the EFF has done against corporate control of the internet is only good as long as their criticism doesn't extend to corporate censorship?

I hope I'm misinterpreting this.

astrostl|5 years ago

Where is an official ACLU statement?

All I've seen are second-hand statements from senior counsel.

jelliclesfarm|5 years ago

This! They don’t have the counsel’s statement on their website.

Very interesting times we live in now.

nx20593|5 years ago

This "looking the other way if it's my guy" attitude towards violence as reached an unacceptable level. The Left and Right are both equally guilty in my view. You want to stop Systemic Racism, then end the fscking war on drugs. You want to stop White Supremacists, then perhaps we need to teach our children the simple universal spiritualist ideas such that people are to be judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. People with money and power WANT Americans at each other's throats. It diverts the attention from how they have sold out our manufacturing base and jobs for short term profits.