I've recently switched from Firefox to Vivaldi, for one reason: Firefox extensions must use javascript injection to capture keyboard shortcuts and mouse gestures. This basically kills all shortcuts+gestures that quickly change tabs, which is how I navigate 95% of the time.
I was a big fan of Opera, so I decided to try Vivaldi, which has built-in features for this.
After a few months I'm probably switching back again due to two problems:
- Vivaldi runs a lot of stuff on the main UI thread, leading to unresponsive interfaces (try the History Panel with a large history, it takes several seconds to type each character in the search bar, and just having the panel open slows down every other tab).
- The Android browser doesn't support extensions, and the ad-blocking is not as good as Firefox Mobile + uBlock Origin.
If not for those two problems, I would keep it. It's a great browser and I admire its passion for its own power users.
- My Vivaldi interface is responsive, YMMV. I just opened my History Panel, checked that several thousands of entries were present, then searched for various characters, then navigated in several tabs. Everything was instant.
- Vivaldi Android has its own ad-blocking system. IIRC, it can load external lists. Though it has less features than uBlock Origin, it's enough for me.
I prefer the desktop Vivaldi to other web browsers because of its features:
- Vertical tab list
- Mouse gestures (click-right-left to go back, down-up to duplicate a tab...)
- Sane download manager (compared to Firefox)
- The features above are native. No need for shady extensions (or clean extension that could become shady on a future upgrade).
- More customization than most browsers (not counting the undocumented config of FF)
I've also tried twice over the last few years to switch full-time to Vivaldi. Once I loaded it up with my usual power user customizations, I would frequently notice UI lock-ups. Incredibly frustrating.
With Mozilla's recent comments in support of censorship and de-platforming, I just started giving Brave browser a try, since they appear to be more focused on privacy and freedom of speech rather than making divisive political statements.
My biggest complaint about Vivaldi on both the PC and Android is the freezing UI; be it tabs or something else. That said, I still use Vivaldi for all my online banking on desktop and I use Vivaldi as secondary browser on mobile to browse reddit or other social media platforms.
I have several browsers installed on my Galaxy S7: Firefox, Vivaldi, DuckDuckGo, Naked Browser, and Chrome. Out of all these, Firefox is the worst performing and nearly unusable it's so slow and causes overall system slowness. Vivaldi and Naked Browser are the quickest and least resource intensive. Chrome is a few steps better than FireFox with DuckDuckGo somewhere in the middle. 90% of the time I used DuckDuckGo for general browsing though due its privacy tools.
This has been my experience too. I kept wanting to like Vivaldi for being the only tree style tabs alternative but everytime I switched to it I encouter lags at some point. I don't remeber the history panel specifically but the thing you said about main UI thread sounds like it. Eventually I decided that tree style tabs are bad for my productivity anw then I stopped seeing the apeal of vivaldi. Atm my favourite browsers are yandex for the minimalistic UI and Edge. Both have big addressbar font which is my thing. Yandex also has an Opera root I believe, it has the "turbo" mode. Privacy wise probably both are as bad as Google Chrome.
You might want to re-consider returning to Opera, as it is not the same Opera of olde (unless you are comfortable with a browser that is now at least partly controlled by the Chinese Communist Party.)
> If you look closely, you’ll notice that no-one has built a new engine from scratch in 20 years.
That's not true. Servo is new, which is where Mozilla are picking their changes to Gecko/Quantum from. These false blanket statements aren't convincing me to use Vivaldi at all. Sure it has it's fair share of issues, but it "works" to a degree and maybe it'll chug along enough to finally be used by 2022.
Currently I'm using Ungoogled Chromium [1] on Windows and Bromite [2] on Android, but the latter will eventually be replaced with the former when I end up building Ungoogled Chromium TriChrome (it's a build mechanism for Android 10 and above to have a shared library package, as well as a WebView and browser package separately for Android).
Ungoogled Chromium is great because it accomplishes all that Vivaldi does, except syncing, all the while keeping the nice UI of Chrome. I'm not a fan of syncing, so that doesn't matter to me.
I used to use Firefox on desktop (prior to and after the Quantum update) but WebGPU was just way to slow for me and I switched to a Chromium-based application.
I guess you need to qualify it with how complete the engine is. Servo definitely qualifies as a new engine but it's not really anywhere close to being "complete" and unfortunately now that the team was laid off from Mozilla development has really slowed down.
> Ungoogled Chromium is great because it accomplishes all that Vivaldi does, except syncing
I am a fan of Firefox and servo, but this is a little under selling vivaldi. Vivaldi's goal isn't to be a stripped down chrome with better security, it is geared for power users. Some might say "bloated", and others might say "featureful and freakishly customizable".
Do you find having to audit Ungoogled Chromium’s patches or trust its contributors (and whoever provides the binaries) a worthy tradeoff compared to having your browser communicate with Google servers? I don’t know whether Eloston is a notable figure in the community, but their GitHub profile links to a parked domain.
Honest question. I am thinking of switching browsers and nothing looks appealing.
I use Firefox, and I've considered using Ungoogled Chromium, but I'm hesitant do so because there are no official, authenticated binaries (see readme notes [1]).
As far as I recall, Ungoogled also doesn't offer automatic updates, probably for the same reason.
I also dislike the fact that it's actually a fork that adds features that have nothing to do with "ungoogling". But that's a minor point.
I keep wanting to give it a good go, but I'm hooked on containers in Firefox (with cookie auto delete) which is a shame because FF just seems to be getting slower for me, and the dev tools have fallen behind Chrome IMO
But I just feel happier having certain things always open in their own container, and not sharing cookies or anything with other ones - all my news sites are in one, banking in another etc
I know they've said it's hard to do, and I don't doubt them, but until someone else implements containers I can't/won't move.
The killer feature of containers for me is keeping Google isolated. I've degoogled my personal life but still have to use it for work (i.e. G-Suite SSO). I can force all those sites to open in my work container which leaves my other containers Google-free.
Before Firefox I used Brave with multiple profiles and it was very painful to use in practice; two sets of extensions, two unlocks of 1Password X, no ability to force certain websites to open in Profile X or Y, etc.
But yes, Firefox feels like it's getting progressively slower and I'm finding more and more things that don't support it. In particular, many of the recent spatial audio tools just flat out refuse to run in Firefox, and tools like Apple Business Manager don't run even though they typically work fine if you spoof the User Agent.
If a Chromium-based browser like Vivaldi or Brave added containers it'd be a very compelling alternative.
Firefox is slower with pure Javascript performance (factor 2 in my experience), but Chrome blew it with hardware rasterization. This slows down rendering large SVGs by up to a factor 10, so for our app Firefox is much much faster unless you disable hardware rasterization on Chrome. It obviously depends on the use case.
I don't have a good comparison since I don't use Chrome on desktop much apart from development. But for me Firefox + containers + ublock origin is good enough for 98% websites.
For the 2% of websites that serve 20 MB of JavaScript, I use Chrome. Works well enough for me.
What are you using to auto delete the cookies? I tried doing this but didn't find an elegant solution for something that seems like an obvious feature.
It's not really an ideal solution but I do find wiping my profile/firefox config directory periodically helps speed it up. It seems to get heavier over time.
Is Chrome a RAM hog and therefore faster than FF?
I exclusively use FF and find it a bit sluggish, but am fine to give up some speed for the privacy gain.
The question which need to be asked about Chrome clones and mods is not what additional features they have added or removed. That is still "addons" territory. The question which needs be asked - did you (developer) made any different decision at all about Google made decision. E.g. Google decides to abandon some protocol, or add support of some protocol, or whey decided to abandon some core option which adblockers depend on etc. Did you (developer) made a different decision at that point, forked code and maintain your decision independently from Google. Until that happens all the Chrome mods are just that - slightly lagging behind Chrome versions with addons.
> Google decides to abandon some protocol, or add support of some protocol, or whey decided to abandon some core option which adblockers depend on etc.
They said if this scenario becomes reality, they will try to maintain the cut functions if they are indeed good for users. It is a tall order, but I worked/talked with couple of people from different departments and the company seems to maintain the user-centric spirit.
I do not love the HN mentality - I do not like it = it is crap, because I am HN user and I know the best, but I never actually did more than skin deep inspection of the product, or googled my concerns... But I am most definitely capable of judging.
Chrome is a privacy nightmare. They push you hard to use a Google account and suck up your searches and private data. It’s an avoidable browser for privacy and a free Internet because if that alone.
I've tried multiple times. Basically, you get an absolutely bloated interface (or should I say OS-replacement?), containing a word processor and minigames. All things work, but none of them work good.
Also, absolutely no tracking protection by default, I've found nothing about how their sync protocol works (is it e2ee?), so I take their argument of "vivaldy is better for your privacy than Chrome" with a grain of salt.
> Moreover, Chromium was becoming the de facto web standard meaning that if we wanted web pages to not break, we’d have to fork Chromium.
This is why we need more users on non-Chrome browsers. I'm sad that Microsoft ditched Edge, and a major reason that I use Firefox is to keep Google from 100% control of the web (well I guess 95% of non-iPhone users). Vivaldi noted that this is a problem, but instead of helping they made it worse. "Not in my backyard" at its finest.
which makes a lot of sense since we mostly have widescreens and tab titles need to be readable - the alternative is to go for minimalism and not be a tab hoarder.
Vivaldi also has a tab management panel where you can select multiple tabs and close them (it also lists the closed tabs if you want to reopen any), or bookmark all of them, etc.
Edit to add: ah, #2 in link above is also another great feature: Hit F2 and get a Spotlight-esque search. If you have 100 tabs open in 4 windows and want to jump to a particular tab, you can hit F2 and type in part of the title, e.g. "Wikipedia", and it will suggest your open tabs which has "Wikipedia" as part of the title, as well as recently closed tabs.
I second the tabs on the side. This was the main reason I even gave Vivaldi a try. I’ve been using it daily for over two and a half years now.
In addition to a lot of awesome features (one of my other favorites is side by side tabs), it’s a browser which treats me like an adult and gives me control over how it works. The configuration section can be overwhelming at times, but they provide a lot of knobs and switches to customize the browser how I want.
Firefox is my main browser, but I have Vivaldi installed for when I need to check if something works properly in Chromium. Having a vertical tab bar out of the box is my main motivation for that.
Yeah I use Firefox and then Chrome on my 2nd monitor, but I really want to switch the Chrome to using Vivaldi, which I have installed, but always forget to get around to doing stuff with.
I like having two different browser to reduce bloat and ram issues when I have too many tabs open or if one browser freezes up I still have 2nd to use and I generally use chrome for debug/dev, but Firefox for actual primary everything.
Containers are great when you have 3 Etsy shops that all need to be logged in at once!
The most common reason to use multiple browsers is account isolation (to make tracking harder or to use multiple accounts, e.g. personal+work). At work I just use Firefox as it has handy containers feature built-in. My home laptop is too old and slow to run Firefox comfortably so I use Chrome and Chromium (with different visual styles configured - for easier visual distinction) as 2 separate "containers". I probably am going to start using Vivaldi when I need one more.
For me, Vivaldi has the best vertical tabs implementation in a Chromium-based browser. I look forward to seeing how Edge tackles the same task.
The user interface isn't perfect, but the tabs work well, the keyboard short-cuts work well, and you can install any of the Chrome extensions you want to ad-blocking, etc
TLDR: They are a business, and lot of FOSS projects get forked or raped by likes of Amazon. I love FOSS, but I understand they want to run a business. Big part of the product is open, but some parts are not deliberately. It might not be for you, and that is cool, pick what you want.
Why does most of the chromium based browser so ungrateful to them. Vivaldi doesn't mention Chromium in the homepage even once but has "Chrome vs Vivaldi" comparison in the homepage. At least they should mention it, and better contribute back to it, if the 99.9% of your product is based on open source project.
Sorry, Vivaldi is not meaningfully open-source[0], so this makes it very difficult for me to care about any purported benefits it has to offer. Which is a shame because is seems like it has some nice features, but without checking this very important prerequisite box, I unfortunately will not even consider it.
[0] https://vivaldi.com/source/ exists but only releasing tarballs is pretty lame, there's no source repository where I can browse/fork, no public bug tracker where I can contribute to issue reports. A conventional, permissive, free-software license is not in use, as far as I can tell.
Vivaldi wouldn't behave like any of the other software that runs on my computer. That's not good.
I understand and appreciate that Vivaldi is different from Chrom(e|ium). That just doesn't make a difference to me.
It seems like Iridium can install any Chrome plugins and is available in the normal repos for Debian/Ubuntu, FreeBSD, etc (as well as Windows/Mac), but it's not backed by a company (and the company's marketing dollars), so it might be even more privacy-focused. (I do see a lot more crashes with Iridium than Brave on a systemd-removed Debian-based system, however.)
I interned at a company which makes Chromium mods tailored for a specific market (not Vivaldi), so AMA.
In short what we did is pretty much the same thing as other Chromium mods: take the Chromium source and add a bunch of features on top of it. Some features that I could remember:
* English dictionary / translator (our market's native language is not English)
* Video downloader (includes Youtube)
* Torrent client
* Multithreaded downloading
* Facebook unblocker. The company operates a bunch of proxy servers, and the browser can be remotely configured to proxy certain sites through those servers. Handy when the government decides to block Facebook/Medium/...
- Quick commands popup (imagine Sublime Text/Visual Code Ctrl Shift P)
- Keyboard shortcuts to do anything, especially to hide and show tab bar, hide and show address bar and even hide title bar
- Ublock Origin works (compared to Safari)
What stopped me using after a week
- Energy consumption is toooo high (compared to using Firefox/Safari) that kept me close to the electric outlet.
Vivaldi certainly is a very different experience; the customisation options are very interesting and powerful.
Since I like, and have, to use multiple broswers (mostly Vivaldi, Firefox and Brave) the customisation is a bit overwhelming. Were it my only browser I doubt that would be an issue.
The "zero tracking" aspect aligns with our own values, as a search engine company. We are not a "partner" so this comment is not coloured by that.
[+] [-] BoppreH|5 years ago|reply
I was a big fan of Opera, so I decided to try Vivaldi, which has built-in features for this.
After a few months I'm probably switching back again due to two problems:
- Vivaldi runs a lot of stuff on the main UI thread, leading to unresponsive interfaces (try the History Panel with a large history, it takes several seconds to type each character in the search bar, and just having the panel open slows down every other tab).
- The Android browser doesn't support extensions, and the ad-blocking is not as good as Firefox Mobile + uBlock Origin.
If not for those two problems, I would keep it. It's a great browser and I admire its passion for its own power users.
[+] [-] idoubtit|5 years ago|reply
- Vivaldi Android has its own ad-blocking system. IIRC, it can load external lists. Though it has less features than uBlock Origin, it's enough for me.
I prefer the desktop Vivaldi to other web browsers because of its features:
- Vertical tab list
- Mouse gestures (click-right-left to go back, down-up to duplicate a tab...)
- Sane download manager (compared to Firefox)
- The features above are native. No need for shady extensions (or clean extension that could become shady on a future upgrade).
- More customization than most browsers (not counting the undocumented config of FF)
[+] [-] jjordan|5 years ago|reply
With Mozilla's recent comments in support of censorship and de-platforming, I just started giving Brave browser a try, since they appear to be more focused on privacy and freedom of speech rather than making divisive political statements.
[+] [-] y-c-o-m-b|5 years ago|reply
I have several browsers installed on my Galaxy S7: Firefox, Vivaldi, DuckDuckGo, Naked Browser, and Chrome. Out of all these, Firefox is the worst performing and nearly unusable it's so slow and causes overall system slowness. Vivaldi and Naked Browser are the quickest and least resource intensive. Chrome is a few steps better than FireFox with DuckDuckGo somewhere in the middle. 90% of the time I used DuckDuckGo for general browsing though due its privacy tools.
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[+] [-] lazerl0rd|5 years ago|reply
That's not true. Servo is new, which is where Mozilla are picking their changes to Gecko/Quantum from. These false blanket statements aren't convincing me to use Vivaldi at all. Sure it has it's fair share of issues, but it "works" to a degree and maybe it'll chug along enough to finally be used by 2022.
Currently I'm using Ungoogled Chromium [1] on Windows and Bromite [2] on Android, but the latter will eventually be replaced with the former when I end up building Ungoogled Chromium TriChrome (it's a build mechanism for Android 10 and above to have a shared library package, as well as a WebView and browser package separately for Android).
Ungoogled Chromium is great because it accomplishes all that Vivaldi does, except syncing, all the while keeping the nice UI of Chrome. I'm not a fan of syncing, so that doesn't matter to me.
I used to use Firefox on desktop (prior to and after the Quantum update) but WebGPU was just way to slow for me and I switched to a Chromium-based application.
[1] - https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium
[2] - https://www.bromite.org
[+] [-] dralley|5 years ago|reply
You can donate to the project here: https://crowdfunding.lfx.linuxfoundation.org/projects/servo
[+] [-] O_H_E|5 years ago|reply
I am a fan of Firefox and servo, but this is a little under selling vivaldi. Vivaldi's goal isn't to be a stripped down chrome with better security, it is geared for power users. Some might say "bloated", and others might say "featureful and freakishly customizable".
[+] [-] strogonoff|5 years ago|reply
Honest question. I am thinking of switching browsers and nothing looks appealing.
[+] [-] atombender|5 years ago|reply
As far as I recall, Ungoogled also doesn't offer automatic updates, probably for the same reason.
I also dislike the fact that it's actually a fork that adds features that have nothing to do with "ungoogling". But that's a minor point.
[1] https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium#downloads
[+] [-] bennyp101|5 years ago|reply
But I just feel happier having certain things always open in their own container, and not sharing cookies or anything with other ones - all my news sites are in one, banking in another etc
I know they've said it's hard to do, and I don't doubt them, but until someone else implements containers I can't/won't move.
[+] [-] clarkdave|5 years ago|reply
Before Firefox I used Brave with multiple profiles and it was very painful to use in practice; two sets of extensions, two unlocks of 1Password X, no ability to force certain websites to open in Profile X or Y, etc.
But yes, Firefox feels like it's getting progressively slower and I'm finding more and more things that don't support it. In particular, many of the recent spatial audio tools just flat out refuse to run in Firefox, and tools like Apple Business Manager don't run even though they typically work fine if you spoof the User Agent.
If a Chromium-based browser like Vivaldi or Brave added containers it'd be a very compelling alternative.
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[+] [-] cheph|5 years ago|reply
It is a real pity, containers are awesome, one of the best new features in a browser for some time, but damn firefox is frustratingly slow.
[+] [-] jakub_g|5 years ago|reply
For the 2% of websites that serve 20 MB of JavaScript, I use Chrome. Works well enough for me.
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[+] [-] lebaux|5 years ago|reply
They said if this scenario becomes reality, they will try to maintain the cut functions if they are indeed good for users. It is a tall order, but I worked/talked with couple of people from different departments and the company seems to maintain the user-centric spirit.
I do not love the HN mentality - I do not like it = it is crap, because I am HN user and I know the best, but I never actually did more than skin deep inspection of the product, or googled my concerns... But I am most definitely capable of judging.
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Also, absolutely no tracking protection by default, I've found nothing about how their sync protocol works (is it e2ee?), so I take their argument of "vivaldy is better for your privacy than Chrome" with a grain of salt.
[+] [-] kevincox|5 years ago|reply
This is why we need more users on non-Chrome browsers. I'm sad that Microsoft ditched Edge, and a major reason that I use Firefox is to keep Google from 100% control of the web (well I guess 95% of non-iPhone users). Vivaldi noted that this is a problem, but instead of helping they made it worse. "Not in my backyard" at its finest.
[+] [-] netsharc|5 years ago|reply
which makes a lot of sense since we mostly have widescreens and tab titles need to be readable - the alternative is to go for minimalism and not be a tab hoarder.
Vivaldi also has a tab management panel where you can select multiple tabs and close them (it also lists the closed tabs if you want to reopen any), or bookmark all of them, etc.
Edit to add: ah, #2 in link above is also another great feature: Hit F2 and get a Spotlight-esque search. If you have 100 tabs open in 4 windows and want to jump to a particular tab, you can hit F2 and type in part of the title, e.g. "Wikipedia", and it will suggest your open tabs which has "Wikipedia" as part of the title, as well as recently closed tabs.
[+] [-] agotterer|5 years ago|reply
In addition to a lot of awesome features (one of my other favorites is side by side tabs), it’s a browser which treats me like an adult and gives me control over how it works. The configuration section can be overwhelming at times, but they provide a lot of knobs and switches to customize the browser how I want.
I definitely recommend giving it a spin!
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[+] [-] samoa42|5 years ago|reply
i cannot grasp why browsers abandoned the vertical-tab ui. is there something difficult about it?
[+] [-] jccalhoun|5 years ago|reply
Firefox is my main personal browser
Chrome is on the second monitor with twitch and social networking sites
Edge is my work browser
Vivaldi is for my part time job
I also keep Waterfox installed for the old version of video download helper which works on some videos the new version doesn't work on.
[+] [-] tmslnz|5 years ago|reply
Choosy OSX as the main browser. This is just a proxy to launch browsers depending on urls, not an actual browser.
Chrome for Google Drive, Apps, whatever they call it today
Firefox for Whatsapp + Facebook and for websites where I need multiple identities via containers (e.g. company & personal Amazon)
Safari for everything else.
There some overlap, but the main goal is to not be logged onto Google or Facebook in my main browser.
I like to think my countermeasures work, but I am under no illusion that no one out there someone has a big fat fingerprint of mine.
I also use Next DNS and often route my connection to a Wireguard VPS.
Phew! Life's hard on the modern internet.
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[+] [-] EwanToo|5 years ago|reply
The user interface isn't perfect, but the tabs work well, the keyboard short-cuts work well, and you can install any of the Chrome extensions you want to ad-blocking, etc
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[+] [-] lebaux|5 years ago|reply
TLDR: They are a business, and lot of FOSS projects get forked or raped by likes of Amazon. I love FOSS, but I understand they want to run a business. Big part of the product is open, but some parts are not deliberately. It might not be for you, and that is cool, pick what you want.
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[+] [-] ppeetteerr|5 years ago|reply
https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/
[+] [-] branon|5 years ago|reply
[0] https://vivaldi.com/source/ exists but only releasing tarballs is pretty lame, there's no source repository where I can browse/fork, no public bug tracker where I can contribute to issue reports. A conventional, permissive, free-software license is not in use, as far as I can tell.
Vivaldi wouldn't behave like any of the other software that runs on my computer. That's not good.
I understand and appreciate that Vivaldi is different from Chrom(e|ium). That just doesn't make a difference to me.
[+] [-] skynet-9000|5 years ago|reply
How does https://iridiumbrowser.de/ compare to https://brave.com and https://vivaldi.com ?
It seems like Iridium can install any Chrome plugins and is available in the normal repos for Debian/Ubuntu, FreeBSD, etc (as well as Windows/Mac), but it's not backed by a company (and the company's marketing dollars), so it might be even more privacy-focused. (I do see a lot more crashes with Iridium than Brave on a systemd-removed Debian-based system, however.)
[+] [-] browserthrow|5 years ago|reply
In short what we did is pretty much the same thing as other Chromium mods: take the Chromium source and add a bunch of features on top of it. Some features that I could remember:
* English dictionary / translator (our market's native language is not English)
* Video downloader (includes Youtube)
* Torrent client
* Multithreaded downloading
* Facebook unblocker. The company operates a bunch of proxy servers, and the browser can be remotely configured to proxy certain sites through those servers. Handy when the government decides to block Facebook/Medium/...
* PIP video before Chrome has one
* Sidebar
[+] [-] anhner|5 years ago|reply
There's a guy in their forums saying two years ago that "iPhone usage will drop to mac level usage (~8%)"[1], which is laughable.
[1] https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/31772/mobile-vivaldi-for-ios...
[+] [-] someperson|5 years ago|reply
There are still billions users without smartphones in the world (especially in Africa and India), and most of them will be getting Android devices.
[1] https://www.idc.com/promo/smartphone-market-share/os
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[+] [-] kakalot|5 years ago|reply
- Quick commands popup (imagine Sublime Text/Visual Code Ctrl Shift P) - Keyboard shortcuts to do anything, especially to hide and show tab bar, hide and show address bar and even hide title bar - Ublock Origin works (compared to Safari)
What stopped me using after a week
- Energy consumption is toooo high (compared to using Firefox/Safari) that kept me close to the electric outlet.
[+] [-] MaxBarraclough|5 years ago|reply
This seems a little dismissive of the Servo project.
[+] [-] ColinHayhurst|5 years ago|reply
Since I like, and have, to use multiple broswers (mostly Vivaldi, Firefox and Brave) the customisation is a bit overwhelming. Were it my only browser I doubt that would be an issue.
The "zero tracking" aspect aligns with our own values, as a search engine company. We are not a "partner" so this comment is not coloured by that.
Vivaldi allows our search users to set up Mojeek and other search engines/services in fair way using codes; a bit like !bangs; shown here for Vivaldi search partners and Mojeek. https://blog.mojeek.com/2020/11/popping-your-filter-bubble-w...