[baccheion]

Some woman. Is the reason the gender skew was realized on Tinder. Paving the way for the dating situation (and large vs. normal pool of incels) among youths today.

Then Bumble. By the same woman. Targeting women (first), but then better for males actually. As the skew is less via attracting more women.

Funny.

[cheriot]

America, like most countries, has slightly more women than men (51.1%). The "incel" phenomenon seems more about men that don't know how to have a healthy relationship with a women.

Ironically, the term "incel" was created by a women before it was coopted https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45284455

[reducesuffering]

It's a bit more nuanced than that. While there are more woman than men, that's because of women outliving men by many years. All of that abundance is due to women in their 50's and up. For people of a more typical dating age, under 50, there are more men than women.

[baccheion]

There are twice as many males on Tinder compared to women. Further, women swipe less often. 1 out of 2 people are at least unattractive, 1 out of 3 are outright attractive, and 1 out of 5 are hot.

The top half is typically seen as viable by males when they stretch (and women explicitly seek the top 20%). That is, all viable 50/100 women are gobbled up by the top 50/200 (ie, 25%) males. Not even out of "attractive" males and the viable women are already gone. The top 20% of males then end up being enough due to the swipe skew.

[symlinkk]

You can’t just dismiss it as “oh these guys are emotionally immature”.

The average woman on dating sites gets hundreds of messages, and the average guy gets tens. That is a MASSIVE imbalance in favor of women.

It’s not hard to imagine that this could cause problems that would lead to a group like incels being created.

I think we need to look more into the cause (why are men so devalued on dating sites) and not the symptom (why are men getting bitter and becoming incels).

[blueline]

what?