yeah, I've been doing this for ages, and now the TD iphone app lets me do from my phone. I have no use for square or any other P2P cashless transfer feature.
As someone who has just moved to the US from Australia, all I can say is: about time. Back home I'm used to being able to transfer money to anyones bank account with no fees, and with the funds arriving the next day. Coming to the US has seen every check I cash "held" for days, and $25 fees for having the gall to transfer money out of my account without using a check. Paying rent takes at least a week, as the "online transfer" in internet banking is a check sent by the bank! I understand now why PayPal was such a big deal when it came out.
(Disclaimer: I bank with Bank of America, and am waiting with baited breath for BankSimple)
The service is a direct threat to PayPal, which dominates the market for online, electronic payments with nearly 100 million active users.
But all the money in Paypal is in facilitating C2B payments, not in C2C payments. Granted, many of their businesses are tiny compared to the typical credit card charging business, but it doesn't meaningfully compete with anything except, perhaps, the low-end of eBay sellers. (And it won't be allowed on eBay.)
I thought you could pay however you wanted on ebay (including check or cash) it was just up to you to work something out with the seller. From what I understand, Dwolla not only does C2B but also does a ton of B2B transactions per month.
"Months behind?" Why has it taken the US so long to catch up with Europe on transferring money via banks? Here in the UK I can pay any company and any person via my bank details. Super easy to do and makes paying my friends back painless and easy.
Very cool to see they've opened this to e-mail and txts now too.
All in all it's a good move and the system to do it really is not all that complicated. It will be interesting to see the user experience side of things since this has already been available in FI's for years under different names.
Am I the only one thinking this might just be a white label of a solution they were already all using?
It competes with PayPal, but they really just borrowed the feature from ING Direct. ING has let you send money to anybody with an email address for a while.
I'm interested to see what their fees are going to be. PayPal is ridiculously expensive (2-3%). Dwolla is a flat 25 cents per transaction (regardless of size).
Why? All this allows you to do is to initiate a transfer to someone using their phone or email, rather than making you know their routing number & checking number.
[+] [-] biot|15 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] praxxis|15 years ago|reply
(Disclaimer: I bank with Bank of America, and am waiting with baited breath for BankSimple)
[+] [-] patio11|15 years ago|reply
But all the money in Paypal is in facilitating C2B payments, not in C2C payments. Granted, many of their businesses are tiny compared to the typical credit card charging business, but it doesn't meaningfully compete with anything except, perhaps, the low-end of eBay sellers. (And it won't be allowed on eBay.)
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[+] [-] mbesto|15 years ago|reply
Very cool to see they've opened this to e-mail and txts now too.
[+] [-] oasisbob|15 years ago|reply
There are a lot of "me too" money transfer services out there: PopMoney and ZashPay are two more that come to mind.
After a quick evaluation of ZashPay, I wasn't impressed. No T-Mobile support, US only, can't send to/from Oklahoma(!), restrictive EULA, terrible UX.
PayPal is still compelling for this type of payment, as P2P payments can be made with no fees, as long as they're sent from a bank account.
[+] [-] bpmilne|15 years ago|reply
Am I the only one thinking this might just be a white label of a solution they were already all using?
[+] [-] lukejduncan|15 years ago|reply
Between BitCoin, Square, and everyone elses entry into the market its hard not to agree.
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