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Gorgor | 5 years ago

I had not known about 'font-display: optional' before. Now I wish more sites used it because there has been so many times where I started reading something on my phone with slow internet when it had not fully loaded yet. It’s really annoying to see the page jump around a while later after font loading finished and you realize that you just wasted data on nothing.

In my opinion, 95 % of websites should just use system fonts. They’re good enough for almost every need really.

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ksec|5 years ago

> 95 % of websites should just use system fonts.

Although I do wish there are a few standard font that is shipped across all browser. Sometimes I want the website to appear exactly the same on all System.

jfk13|5 years ago

The site should appear exactly the same in a fullscreen browser on a 27" desktop monitor, and on an original iPhone? That's rarely a useful goal.

For a page that really needs to look "exactly the same" everywhere it's viewed, maybe PDF is a better choice than HTML+CSS.

postalrat|5 years ago

Are you a designer?

If you want your document to look the same on all systems create an image.

SilasX|5 years ago

Nice, but it's more important for my browser not to leak information about me via what fonts I needed to download.

Also, it gets really annoying when sites demand that my desktop look like my mobile phone but blown up really big. Twitter's already that way, and the Facebook redesign did the same thing.

marcthe12|5 years ago

There are a few metric compatible fonts used by stuff like pdf. and so on. I believe an alias for these fonts are needed. Obviously add an emoji and UI font. that will be the best

robertoandred|5 years ago

There are a few standard fonts, but no one wants to use them.

wtetzner|5 years ago

Is it possible to configure your browser to treat every site as if it used 'font-display: optional'? I'd love to be able to do that. Seems like it should be up to the user to decide, not the web developer.

vestrigi|5 years ago

Browsers typically let you define a user stylesheet somewhere in the settings. I tried it in Safari with a simple `body {@font-face {font-display: optional;}}` but I could't verify if it has any effects. I think it is difficult because @font-face will be evaluated differently than usual css, say `color: red`. Maybe someone who has a better understanding of css could try it...

mrob|5 years ago

uBlock Origin lets you block/allow web fonts globally or per site.