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Well if you listen to some Tesla fanatics including boss man Elon himself, traditional car companies carry too much baggage from their ICE platforms to transition to EVs successfully, so all this “experience” they have is a net drag.

Meanwhile outside the Tesla/Musk bubble, traditional car companies do not have QC issues like Tesla’s and are even outselling Tesla in major EV markets like Europe.

At least Musk is finally admitting to the QC issues.

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Isinlor|5 years ago

Tesla is competing on European market with 10% tariffs.

Wait for cars made in Giga Berlin that will be exempted from tariffs.

africanboy|5 years ago

Tesla is not the only EV car on the market anymore.

The top selling EV in Europe in 2020 was the Renault Zoe, Volkswagen is catching up fast (they sold 56k ID 3 despite only going on sale in the second half of last year VS 85k Model 3 over 12 months), Tesla model 3 was second, but numbers are dropping.

If we are talking about quality, I think the new BMW and Mercedes will take the lead in the segment Tesla is being marketed right now.

Tesla numbers are good thanks to Norway buying a lot of them.

rad_gruchalski|5 years ago

Tariffs have nothing to do with quality.

Schiendelman|5 years ago

I don't think it's useful to say traditional car companies are outselling Tesla in Europe; they're selling a differently positioned vehicle. It's like Android to Apple - $200 Android phones aren't "outselling" $1000 Apple phones in a lower income market.

nickik|5 years ago

Man people look at one statistic from Norway and simply make assumptions.

Tesla has 23% of the global BEV market, that is the same market share as 2019. And many of those other cars are small low range city cars. So in terms of BEV revenue Tesla is much more then 23%.

Tesla has focused on the US and China first. While VW and others had to focus on Europe first. To use that fact and argue 'even outselling Tesla in major EV markets' is just disingenuous.

Next, it simply not true that traditional car companies don't have QC issues. If you look at analysis you will see that other expensive cars are often not so much better then Tesla. In terms of safety, battery and drivetrain, we have seen traditional car companies have lots of issues.

Also, Tesla is not using market share in Europe because of Quality issues. That is simply what Tesla hater want to believe because it fit the narrative.