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cccc4all | 5 years ago

Cows and livestock eat plants and convert into meat. It’s natural and organic and proven process that’s been around for thousands of years.

Ground up plants with food colorings and odd shapes are not meat.

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hannob|5 years ago

> It’s natural and organic and proven process that’s been around for thousands of years.

Which is a good example how "natural" and "been around for thousands of years" does not equal "is good for the environment".

bearbawl|5 years ago

First of all, I’m pretty sure animals live there, in the « environment ». And animals eat animals, in this « environment ». As far as tv documentaries present this to me (sorry I’ve never been in the real nature in the real life), it’s not « induced ».

The question then is more about how much we eat, what do we consider « ok » to eat, how many are we, and how do we farm to sustain all this.

mytailorisrich|5 years ago

In itself it's neither good nor bad for the environment. In fact some ecosystems depend on the vegetation being kept in check by herbivores so arguably keeping at least some cattle in those ecosystems is 'good' for the environment.

The problem is the scale, which is also a problem with the industrial growing of crops and industrial fishing.

In rich countries we probably eat too much meat both for our health and for the impact on the environment, but the bottom line is that feeding 8 billion people and counting, who are getting richer globally, is going to hit the environment hard.

IMHO, the best way to reduce meat consumption is to ban subsidies and to increase regulatory quality standards, which would make prices go up significantly. But that's politically unpalatable.

wtetzner|5 years ago

Are we convinced growing these crops are good for the environment?

Not to mention how terrible plant-based “meats” are for your health.

alacombe|5 years ago

7 billions homo sapiens sapiens is not good for the environment either, so you should welcome war, genocides, pandemic and anything reducing its population.

eznzt|5 years ago

Nobody said it does?

cccc4all|5 years ago

Cows and livestock are great for environment. They eat plants and clear vegetation and the poop converts to nutrients in soil.

People should demand and buy better meat from better farms with better practices.

delibes|5 years ago

Agreed. Some vegans/vegetarians don't want their food labelled meat either.

However please don't compare the modern industrial meat production with anything like farming from, say, 500 years ago, or with ancient hunting. Modern meat production is brutal (for necessary cost reasons) and hugely destructive to the environment.

wtetzner|5 years ago

There are still sustainable farms, and you can of course encourage more of it by buying your meat from those.

cccc4all|5 years ago

Please look into these modern industrial plant processing and production for vegans, vegetarians.

They will be much better off eating good quality meats from reputable sources.

redisman|5 years ago

The way we create meat today has nothing to do with natural are you serious? Dosing cows with hormones and antibiotics to make them grow at multiples of their natural rate and feeding them with soy and grains while they live in small concrete and metal cages.

hexo|5 years ago

Exactly! There is no such thing as plant based meat.