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esamatti | 5 years ago

Interesting business model

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Experts Host Sites Here for $1/month

Do you like paying extra so other people can ask amateur questions? That's how it is at other hosting companies where beginners and experts pay the same price. Beginners drive up the cost by asking a lot of novice support questions while the experts don't contact support. That is great for amateurs, and unfair to the experts like you.

No Support Linux Hosting has a completely different business model. We ignore the support questions, and pass the savings on to you! If you are an expert who does not want to pay extra for help with amateur support issues, then you can host with us and save big money.

Experts like you can sign up now for free. We charge $1/month per website, and there is no limit to the number of websites you can host in your account. This is the best deal in the web hosting industry, as long as you are the type of person who can find his or her own answers.

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From https://web.archive.org/web/20201109042643/https://www.nosup...

I guess they took savings from security too.

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IgorPartola|5 years ago

For those interested in this kind of thing, there are two fun resources I would recommend. First, LowEndBox (https://lowendbox.com/) which documents where you can get VPS hosting for as little as $1/month or even cheaper in some instances. Second, Super Dimensional Fortress (http://sdf.org/) where for a $1 you can get lifetime low level hosting and for $25 you can get access to a much beefier server. A community of old school *nix nerds comes as a bonus.

dannyw|5 years ago

Just watch out: lots of the low end box providers end up shutting down, and may take your servers and data with it.

I now stick to reputable “value” providers like BuyVM. Having an operator I can discord and get frank answers, as well as a commitment to privacy (Tor exit nodes welcomed), is nice.

tacon|5 years ago

lowendbox.com was great to start, but they got popular, and then profitable, and finally were bought by a low end hosting aggregator/rollup, and now almost all the different offers on lowendbox.com are coming from essentially the same company. The sister site, lowendtalk.com, seems to have picked up the mantle of open discussions, and they have offers, too. For example, recently I bought a 1GB KVM VPS for $14.83/yr. With KVM, I can use netboot.xyz and play to my hearts content with any Linux distro I want. I have NixOS running on it at the moment. On another, I'm playing with dokku, which takes over the whole VPS as a heroku clone.

These companies are often unstable, so regular backups of anything you might be sad losing are vital. I recommend paying by the month, if that is available, and using this whitelist of low end providers who have been in business for a reasonable length of time[0].

[0] https://lowendboxes.review/the-whitelist/

jart|5 years ago

I'm so glad Super Dimensional Fortress is still around. I learned how to use Unix thanks to them back in the 1990s. They're in a different league than the goofballs selling unlimited web hosting cheaper than arizona iced tea.

boarnoah|5 years ago

Definitely be careful with hosts off Lowendbox, as other commenters have mentioned providers go offline without warning all the time. Never pay more than a year in advance etc...

Notorious for "Deadpooling", providers sell ultra cheap hosts. Run them on over-provisioned servers for a year or two and disappear overnight.

ex: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/19/12/08/1549222/20-low-end-...

lupire|5 years ago

Also nearlyfreespeech.net is old and cheap and doesn't police legal content.

jcun4128|5 years ago

> SDF

cool name (know the show)

I'll have to check these out I've been using OVH all this time, also GitHub pages is pretty cool.

abdullahkhalids|5 years ago

NearlyFreeSpeech, where I have been hosting my static personal site for 9 years has a similar model. You pay for exactly the resources you use. I pay less than $20/year.

If you need support, you pay $5/month extra.

https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/services/support

pas|5 years ago

How come support is not pay-as-you-go based on time?

abdullahkhalids|5 years ago

What you get for $1/month

> Each website in your account can use up to 1GB of disk space and 30GB of monthly bandwidth. These resource limits are enough for most normal websites. Each website can set up 3 databases and 25 email accounts.

The server specs are here

https://web.archive.org/web/20200618180933/http://www.nosupp...

generationP|5 years ago

> 30GB of monthly bandwidth. These resource limits are enough for most normal websites

Unless you have a griefer with a broadband connection and half an hour of time I guess?

bluedino|5 years ago

Reminds me of the old prgmr.com:

An easy to understand price schedule: $4/month per account, and $1/month for every 64MiB ram. Please note; this means all plans come with $4/month worth of support.

alanpost|5 years ago

Prgmr.com owner here.

While that copy is old, and our pricing reflects the hardware we run on today, the quip has now been updated to: "You get $5/month of support," which is the price of the smallest package we offer.

That wisecrack aside, the reality of the support we provide is more in-line with our byline: "We do not assume you are stupid." In practice, and with a hat tip to pera replying to you here, that means we provide what you might call peer support--we explain what's going on, what steps are necessary to correct it, and take responsibility when we caused the issue. And expect similar candor.

As you might expect, most of the technical support we provide is routine--with sufficient information communicated to both parties the problem is typically straightforward to resolve. But we treat tickets on their merit and customer reports do come in that admit more substantive investigation and resolution:

the LAN of 16 Million Hosts: https://prgmr.com/blog/2020/07/17/classful-networking.html

Possible Data Corruption on Debian Buster: https://prgmr.com/blog/2020/07/15/debian-buster.html

Debugging freebsd.org Resolution Failure: https://prgmr.com/blog/2020/04/23/debugging-freebsd-resoluti...

The people you talk to when you write us have the authority to investigate and--if correctable on our end--resolve your problem.

pera|5 years ago

I know but I believe they should rephrase that: I have been using their VPSs for ten years and they have the best customers support I have ever dealt with :)

tyingq|5 years ago

The Cpanel licenses would take 30 cents/month out of that $1 too.

kall|5 years ago

If that kind of thing is appealing to anyone, check out uberspace.de. It’s the best possible version of shared hosting and it can even cost 1€ too (you should pay more though).

Unlike this thing they are both super friendly to all manner of linux nerd stuff yet provide excellent, gracious support where they teach you the stuff you don’t know.

richardfey|5 years ago

If they appreciate what an "expert" is, they surely could hire one in security.

fukmbas|5 years ago

Honestly just sounds like a bullshit way to not provide support for your product.

kstrauser|5 years ago

I love that model when done well. Others have mentioned NearlyFreeSpeech.net web hosting.

What they provide to me: a place to upload my static web pages to, period.

What I ask from them: serve these web pages I've uploaded, period.

I don't want or need support for any of that. If something breaks on my part, I can and will diagnose and fix it. If something breaks on their end and they need to fix it, then that's a bug report and not a support request.

In exchange for that, their prices are dirt cheap and perfect for the things I need it for. I couldn't possibly host it myself for the prices they charge me. I think that's a good example of there the business model makes a huge amount of sense for all involved.