[Jkvngt]

Why do people still put things on services which follow takedown requests? It's kind of silly to rely on these gigantic oppressive corporations to get your message out when we have, say Bittorrent over i2p which is practically censorship proof.

There is a technical barrier to freedom these days. And if you can't overcome it, the societal equivalent to the laws of physics mean that you don't DESERVE freedom.

[paulmd]

> Why do people still put things on services which follow takedown requests? It's kind of silly to rely on these gigantic oppressive corporations to get your message out when we have, say Bittorrent over i2p which is practically censorship proof.

and yet you are here, posting on a non-free (as in speech) corporate service where your views might be censored.

you're not helping! why is that, leon?

> if you can't overcome it, the societal equivalent to the laws of physics mean that you don't DESERVE freedom

big yikes, capital-L libertarian here. hey guys just bootstrap your way into not being oppressed by police!

I guess the Libertarian answer here is to start a competing police force that could prevent the police from oppressing you by force of arms? Let me know when you get around to it, I'll file the FBI tip, they aren't too keen on that stuff after last month.

[guerrilla]

Because most people don't know how to use anything else or it's not easy enough. It's that simple.

[judge2020]

Every big service has to honor DMCA takedown requests. In fact, every service in the US needs to honor them lest they want to become a party in a lawsuit for copyright infringement.

[TheCoelacanth]

Most of them are far more aggressive about taking things down than the DMCA requires and they also don't allow counter-claims that would be allowed if they were actually following the DMCA. If it was just a DMCA takedown request, then the uploader would basically just have to say that it's not copyright infringement and then the only recourse for the takedown requester would be to take the uploader to court.