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fraudsyndrome | 5 years ago

> Since people are already weary of clicking the unsubscribe link

Can you please elaborate on this? Do you mean people intentionally avoid this because it leads to the advertisers marking that as "read" and therefore a live user?

Asking because I recently purged my old emails which had thousands of emails, they obviously never stopped sending even with zero interaction.

But my method was to click the unsubscribe link which I was afraid might give them more information about them and doing the opposite of what I wanted. I know some didn't even respect the unsubscribe, I took note of which ones I explicitly clicked and they're still sending spam to me.

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relix|5 years ago

I don't think anyone should be scared of pressing the unsubscribe button in 2021. This was a common belief back in 1999, but I don't believe that should be anymore: spammers (legit spammers) don't care that there's an actual person on the other side. If the email address did not exist, the legit ISP's would have sent a notification on the feedback loop to the newsletter already, saying that this address does not exist. I think there's nowadays very little gain if any for bad actors to be had by letting them know you exist by clicking a link.

My belief about people being weary of the unsubscribe button are elaborated on here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26164450

kube-system|5 years ago

If I know who the email is coming from, then yes, I use the unsubscribe button.

But I definitely don't click on unsubscribe buttons in unsolicited mail when I don't really know who it's from. It could be an attempt to identify a valid mailbox (and spam me more), or it could link to malware.

woko|5 years ago

I will tell you about my scam anecdote. I had been receiving an email once every few months for several years about the possibility to create an account on the website of my electricity provider. All of these emails were suspicious because of the very diverse and weird emails used by the sender, usually a slightly different one for each email. After a few years, I thought that these might be legit and clicked on the link provided in the email. I did not put in any personal information, and did not end up creating an account on their website. The week after, I received phone-text messages about some debt payment for electricity bills. I even received phone calls about it. Unless it is a coincidence, the people on the other side of this well-elaborate scam had to know my email and my phone number, and started the phone scam after they noticed I fell through the email scam. They tried to get me to pay their fake debt, which had always the same ID number, but a different amount of money to pay each time (sometimes lower than before). And they did not know my name: I know this for a fact thanks to the brief amount of time I spent on the phone with one of them. They thought I was someone else. They kept spamming my phone with text messages and phone calls around 8 a.m. or noon, once or twice per week. After ~9 months of them being blocked by me (I could only block the phone calls, the text message still went through, because they went through some kind of public advertising proxy with 5-6 digits), they completely stopped.

So yeah, rule number 1 of email protection should be: do not tell the scammer/spammer that you actually use this email address. In case of a doubt, click the "spam" button, block the address, but do not click "unsubscribe." Only click "unsubscribe" if you trust the sender, because once you have done it, your email address is suddenly worth a lot more, especially to bad actors.