Hallelujah! "OS X Lion [Terminal] includes editable ANSI colors in preferences and support for 256 colors and BCE (background color erase). The default TERM value is xterm-256color."
This App Store-only distribution has me concerned about small business upgrades.
Let's say I have an office with 10 workstations. How do I upgrade? Do I have to create an iTunes account for each computer, and enter a company credit card number on each one? Can multiple iTunes accounts even share the same credit card number?
Perhaps I could get by with two accounts, since iTunes allows sharing on up to five Macs. But that's still far from an elegant solution, and it doesn't scale any better. And what about users who already have their workstations activated with their home iTunes accounts?
Agree. I use Mac's at exhibitions all over the world. Anything without physical media of some sort (USB/DVD/CD/HDD) is as good as useless to me as often I don't have an internet connection or it's painfully slow.
Same situation. Not sure how that’s going to work for us as we’re a Mac shop with the exception of the sysadmin’s box and the internal servers (Ubuntu throughout). We don’t have a company App Store account - not sure such a thing even exists - and we don’t have any OSX servers. Maybe it’s time to consolidate some of our elderly rackmount equipment onto virtualised systems on a MacMini server or two? Hmm.
Historically you could use OSX Server as a local update/patch server, and have other Mac's on the LAN use it instead of downloading the same stuff again.
They say they're making Lion Server free and easily configured, and I'm hoping that they're integrating the App store components as well.
For the DP releases the downloaded package simply contains a DMG which can be restored to a USB drive or DVD easily or you could do a network install from another Mac using disk sharing.
Speaking from Australia, I'll assume that at least iinet will have it on their cap-less servers to download. For example most major Steam games are and don't count against the cap.
dsplittgerber seems to have a valid point, though one that is understood by anyone who has followed Apple for long. Still, unsure why the comment is [dead].
To respond, Apple has never had a problem re-implementing a 3rd party app and integrating it into the system, Dashboard is a classic example of this. It's a bit hostile towards 3rd party developers, but generally good for users (at least that's the argument).
Absolutely, I'd gladly trade this optical drive, which I've used twice in a year, for two more USB ports. Hard to believe that my $2200 MBP has only two USB ports, which constrains me daily, and my $500 Toshiba has four.
If Airs can do without the drive, there's no reason MBPs can't as well. They're running the same OS after all.
To address the concerns of re-installation, they're including a partition with the system install disk on it (which can get to Time Machine or whatever else you need).
It's only available through the Mac App Store. So how can people upgrade from 10.5 without going the extra step to 10.6, which is required for the app store?
Presumably Apple thinks they should get Lion preinstalled on a new Mac, since 10.5 users are due for a hardware upgrade anyway (from Apple's point of view).
If you install a valid registered copy of the OS on the hardware, I imagine none. For the people that obtain the OS through not so legal means, then I imagine they'll still be able to get around it as most application on the appstore are obtainable through other means.
“You bring your Mac to the Apple Store!” is probably the answer Apple would give you.
There might also be a way for you to put the installer on some drive. (There currently is one with the Developers Preview. It works just like the dmgs of older OS X discs and you can find it inside the App bundle of the installer you download in the App Store.)
I don't mean to be off topic, but I really feel, although this is an improvement on the price of Windows upgrade, I think that there is nothing in this release that would drive me off any Linux, particularly a rolling release distribution.
I know that for certain fields, such as multimedia, apple offers a lot, but with new offerings such as Gnome 3, a mature KDE 4, and Ubuntu's unity, for the standard desktop user or developer for that matter, I argue that Linux should enthrall and for one of the first times the difference in price tag isn't the only plus. Stability, Safety and polish are quickly becoming relevant keywords for Linux desktops.
Although the new Unity and Gnome Shell may lack the stability, you can always fall back on the watertight Gnome default desktop.
If they added borders to everything, how many pixels do the borders take up? I'll probably avoid the upgrade if there are borders I can't get rid of...
This is not a total change in direction for Apple, just a fleshing out of what they've been wanting to do for a while. Expect more of this in the future, not less.
After all the talk about delta updates in the keynote I had hoped that Time Machine would be doing file deltas now. A read through the Lion features page doesn't turn anything up. Anyone know?
The first part of today's keynote had a strong emphasis on multitouch and gestures being integrated into the OS. As a BTT user myself I'm very curious to see if BTT has been obsoleted by Apple.
Has anyone seen references to how the server tools will be distributed? The rumor mill had indicated that there would be a mac app store version but I have not seen a confirmation on if these pieces are in the regular 10.7 upgrade or not.
The server edition of 10.6 was $500 and distinct from the $29 regular edition so I am expecting a separate paid download to be required...
[+] [-] callahad|15 years ago|reply
Cite: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html#unix
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Let's say I have an office with 10 workstations. How do I upgrade? Do I have to create an iTunes account for each computer, and enter a company credit card number on each one? Can multiple iTunes accounts even share the same credit card number?
Perhaps I could get by with two accounts, since iTunes allows sharing on up to five Macs. But that's still far from an elegant solution, and it doesn't scale any better. And what about users who already have their workstations activated with their home iTunes accounts?
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They say they're making Lion Server free and easily configured, and I'm hoping that they're integrating the App store components as well.
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http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2625727
To respond, Apple has never had a problem re-implementing a 3rd party app and integrating it into the system, Dashboard is a classic example of this. It's a bit hostile towards 3rd party developers, but generally good for users (at least that's the argument).
[+] [-] thomasgerbe|15 years ago|reply
Now if only they just did away with the optical drives on MBP's. I have used mine about... twice in three years since owning my current laptop.
[+] [-] matthew-wegner|15 years ago|reply
http://www.mcetech.com/optibay/
Cheap eBay brackets are ~$20 and accomplish the same thing.
There are a couple of caveats--here's everything you need to know: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2493938
[+] [-] code_duck|15 years ago|reply
If Airs can do without the drive, there's no reason MBPs can't as well. They're running the same OS after all.
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To address the concerns of re-installation, they're including a partition with the system install disk on it (which can get to Time Machine or whatever else you need).
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Internet Restore and Utilities
* Built into Lion: OS X Lion includes a built-in restore partition, allowing you to repair or reinstall OS X without the need for discs.
* Browse the web with Safari: Recovery mode now includes the Safari web browser, so you can check your email or browse the Apple Support site.
* Reinstall OS X: OS X can be reinstalled on your Mac from recovery mode.
* Restore from a Time Machine backup: Use recovery mode to restore your Mac from a Time Machine backup.
[+] [-] ugh|15 years ago|reply
There might also be a way for you to put the installer on some drive. (There currently is one with the Developers Preview. It works just like the dmgs of older OS X discs and you can find it inside the App bundle of the installer you download in the App Store.)
[+] [-] Newky|15 years ago|reply
I know that for certain fields, such as multimedia, apple offers a lot, but with new offerings such as Gnome 3, a mature KDE 4, and Ubuntu's unity, for the standard desktop user or developer for that matter, I argue that Linux should enthrall and for one of the first times the difference in price tag isn't the only plus. Stability, Safety and polish are quickly becoming relevant keywords for Linux desktops.
Although the new Unity and Gnome Shell may lack the stability, you can always fall back on the watertight Gnome default desktop.
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You can now resize a window from any side or corner.
Interesting that they did finally do this. And without adding huge-ass borders to everything...
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I hope a normal DVD will be available on the quiet.
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[+] [-] iramiller|15 years ago|reply
The server edition of 10.6 was $500 and distinct from the $29 regular edition so I am expecting a separate paid download to be required...
[+] [-] callahad|15 years ago|reply
The upgrade path for existing Server users is Snow Leopard Server to Lion, then Lion to Lion Server.