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c06n | 5 years ago

What's underground today? Genuinely curious.

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standardUser|5 years ago

In the realm of music, I think the mainstream has stayed roughly the same size but the rest of music has exploded in size and variety via Spotify/Bandcamp/Soundcloud/YouTube.

Instead of zines there's a million or so blogs and forums and newsletters.

Podcasts are an entirely new realm and only a tiny sliver of it cracks the mainstream.

The number of outlets for "TV shows" has exploded, so there's plenty that comes and goes without any significant mainstream exposure.

Much of the above is created on an enthusiasts budget for a tiny audience.

And I'd argue a lot of the above are exempt from "cancel culture" if only because most people don't know they exist.

mc32|5 years ago

If they rely on YT, IG, etc for monetization or promotion, they risk having monetization revoked or being entirely deplatformed.

c06n|5 years ago

Good point, but I am not sure how much weight it carries. Safety in numbers? You are fine as long as you don't offend anybody?

Have we accepted censorship just like that? What is next, coded language to escape the thugs?

inglor_cz|5 years ago

People with a Parler account.

konjin|5 years ago

Distributed networks and the like.

The first draft of an actual underground which can't just be shutdown by attacking a server is https://getaether.net/ having build up on the lessons of freenet and bittorrent.

It isn't the be all and end all, but it's a huge step forward.