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Value investing like Fama French HML? Value like the factor that's gotten trounced over the last decade?

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You could make the argument (and many people have) that HML and other simple value formulations aren't actually true value opportunities: they are just cheap and often value traps.

While I kind of look down at value, I think you can outperform with it but you need to look a lot deeper than simple ratios.