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Mischa's Cursed Webring

129 points| bwooster | 5 years ago |cursed.lol

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analyte123|5 years ago

Doing crazy things with CSS, including animations, has never been easier or more consistent between browsers, and yet creativity in web design has gone down practically to zero these days. I blame mobile, where nobody can seem to escape from the "responsive column of blandly styled content" paradigm.

johnfn|5 years ago

My theory for why this is is that in the past when the web was arcane and challenging to learn to develop, this actually acted as a filter for people who had a special sort of intellectual curiosity and passion to really push through and make what they wanted to make. It’s great now that the web is so broadly accessible, but now no such filter exists, so truly creative sites are fewer and further between.

nine_k|5 years ago

It's the same reason why most modern books are bland streams of text set in brushed-up typefaces, while medieval manuscripts were written in whimsical hands and richly adorned with full-color illustrations and drop caps decorated over the top.

Back in 1995, a web page was an experimental medium, with very few experts in the field, and few businesses seeing it as a key asset. It could took long to develop, it could look fancy and whimsical, and there were few other sites to compare to, with the same properties. The chance for a web user to encounter something unusual was higher, because there was very little properly usual yet.

Today the web is the main medium, with a lot of standardization which comes from the need to be readable, accessible, look clean, and take as short to develop as possible. The consumer expects the same: simple, familiar packaging, easy access to the content which is usually a piece of text or a picture. This leaves especially little room for fancy on small-screen mobile devices. The web is not more of a place for artistic expression than newspapers were in 1970. Whimsical and fancy designs exist, but they are relatively rare and special-purpose, promo or art pages.

cosmodisk|5 years ago

I think I had enough "creativity" from webdesign. Video backgrounds, fading,or reappearing text sections, absurd colour schemes,or overengineered SPAs. I'd happily trade all that shiny wrapping paper into something a bit more boring and consistent.

jgalt212|5 years ago

yes, blame the SEO mantra of "mobile-first" which has poisoned products that are "mobile-rarely".

emayljames|5 years ago

All behold the latest in web design: https://www.cameronsworld.net/

jamiek88|5 years ago

What a rabbit hole I went down. Ending at warrens world with the most delightfully poignant tribute to coco his little dog that passed away.

Teared up reading it.

So much love and work went into these homepages.

Hammershaft|5 years ago

I came back tr gonna post that! Amazing site, if you like it you should try hypnospace outlaw.

imgabe|5 years ago

I'm completely in awe of this, it's amazing.

Groxx|5 years ago

Marvelous. Peak GeoCities has been achieved.

antihero|5 years ago

This is actually a thing of beauty.

beaconstudios|5 years ago

Had to throw http://durgasoft.com/ 's hat into the ring too for the garish web design subset.

aasasd|5 years ago

I actually still occasionally see ads or videos for Indian programming courses, that look close to that.

Considering that visual austerity is a distinct feature of Western visual design and seems foreign to Chinese/Indian/Middle-Eastern tradition—I sometimes wonder what Eastern people consider as examples of stupid tasteless Western design.

geocrasher|5 years ago

Working in web hosting, I've hosted many sites like this and had to deal with some of the people who've made them. And I have to say that while it's fun to point and laugh at the websites, there are a few of these in the ring that are borderline troubling. It is clear that their authors are suffering from some serious mental illnesses and at the very least some major delusions.

I recall a case years ago where I hosted a site for someone who appeared to be a paranoid schizophrenic. They called in one day complaining that we'd moved one of their HTML tables to the left by a few pixels. Another one was a website by somebody who was "exposing" their local municipality for doing things like charging for water and "illegally incarcerating" the website owner, who viewed their stints in a mental hospital as an attack to their freedom.

On the other hand, Lings Cars made it on this webring, and it's well deserved. That site is awesome and horrible at the same time, and it's designed to make us gawk at it for fun.

Mediterraneo10|5 years ago

At what point does appreciating content produced by the mental ill become exploitation of them? Gene Ray was clearly mentally ill, but few had any qualms about enjoying the WTF quality of the Time Cube website.

Some of the classic twentieth-century art by outsider artists like Adolf Wölfli was in large part the consequence of their illness, and yet it is appreciated nevertheless, so couldn’t the same persist today for the mentally ill’s analogous creations on the internet?

jstanley|5 years ago

> who viewed their stints in a mental hospital as an attack to their freedom.

In fairness, this is an attack on their freedom.

DiggyJohnson|5 years ago

This is extremely well done. Academically, I look forward to any attempt at criticizing this project. It's a tricky thought experiment.

prox|5 years ago

What is it exactly? There is no editorial to go with this. I love the time machine feel though. Hello tables!

joemi|5 years ago

If 'cursed' is derogatory, then it seems unfair/mean to call sites cursed just for not keeping up with current web design trends. Shouldn't we be better than that?

CDSlice|5 years ago

I'm not really sure what's so "cursed" about this website? http://www.hytechshotz.com/default.asp

The website design is pretty bad but based off of the OP saying "most of them are really deep and demonstrate some sort of twisted brain that was behind each site" I'm not really sure why this one is on the list.

bpierre|5 years ago

I don’t see how any of these is cursed really. I think it is fair to assume that most of these websites are the product of work and passion from individuals having put some time and effort into it.

One can perceive them as ugly, outdated, funny, or even pointless (I don’t, but it’s not the point). But using a domain like cursed.lol and a vocabulary like “twisted brain” or “fucked up shit” (OP’s comment) is a bit too much on the side of the mockery / disrespect / immaturity and doesn’t belong here IMO.

hc-taway|5 years ago

I'd say that one gets in for having photos with "2019-2020", so clearly still being updated, but for feeling so very much like it's from 1999. Choosing to lead with an unremarkable aerial photography shot, and something about the saturation in the images, is so 1990s, not just the design. @aol.com contact email. The name is reminiscent of "icy hot stuntaz". The whole package is very special.

hinkley|5 years ago

Overlooking the ol' bezel trick,

High saturation text on a black background does not cancel out the overuse of high saturation colors. This looks like a flyer for Hempfest 2021.

(Why do pot smokers enjoy higher saturation than the rest of us? Has anyone studied this?)

dookahku|5 years ago

Maybe like finding a Prada store in the middle of nowhere near marfra Texas... Either it's a cover or an artwork, or possibly someone That twisted at Prada headquarters decide that it was a good location

RGamma|5 years ago

Love this, there's so much personality in these. No JS cruft, no cosmetics, no filler, just cool (and in this case very weird) vibes.

How far the web strayed from this, it's a shame really. The soul has left :/

nexthash|5 years ago

I would disagree - the Web hasn't strayed, it's just gotten bigger. A lot more people on for a variety of reasons. If you look closely, you can still find creativity. For example, search up "digital gardens"

tempodox|5 years ago

Wow, the greatest website of the ’90s that never was, it even has a Catsape browser embedded somewhere. Found that by coincidence — clicking around in this thing can have surprising results. It is also the first site that managed to get me this warning from Safari: “This webpage is using significant energy. Closing it may improve the responsiveness of your Mac”. I recommend the site for its entertainment value but make sure your battery is charged!

fortran77|5 years ago

There's something very charming about these 90's style web-pages, content aside.

tomcooks|5 years ago

That charm was lost with all the UI/UX studies and frameworks and major platforms with a standardized corporate look.

muybasado|5 years ago

Interesting project, however it seems it has a certain bias against a peculiar demographic, unfortunately this isn't surprising at all. Culture war permeates everything.

SamBam|5 years ago

I really didn't understand this comment, and you didn't expand, so I assumed that it must have been something obvious and I was too insensitive to notice. So I did a survey of the first 20 sites it gave me and try to categorize by "demographic/culture." Here's what I got:

    Unknown (math, science etc) 6
    Asian 4
    Christian 2
    Middle America  2
    Goth 1
    Democrat 1
    Irish 1
    EU 1
    Swiss 1
    English 1
So... I'm still in the dark. I guess Asians are overrepresented? But that included several different countries (I could only wrote Korea and China before I started categorizing them together).

Or maybe you decided they were making fun of your demographic in particular, and confirmation bias led you to see only that? Are you seeing "culture war" where there isn't any, or am I still blind?

hc-taway|5 years ago

Could you expand on this? I can't figure out what you're getting at.

bwooster|5 years ago

Submissions welcome!

rdiddly|5 years ago

Culture war does permeate everything, including any time you see something that's perfectly balanced demographically, which is how you know it was contrived and is probably an ad or other obsequious sanitized corporate communication designed not to be cancelable.